Alex Kurtzman Gets New Deal With CBS, Will Expand 'Star Trek' TV
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We can close the thread right here, it won't get any better
This season was about war, and there was hardly any war in it, so I think your fears of pew-pewing it up are... unfounded.
You’re probably right
I was just playing Q’s advocate haha!The romulan cloak line in BoT is annoying in light of ENT. That’s one of the continuity gaffes that really bugs me. That and the D7 the Xyrillian ship uses for fuel... nothing should have cloaked before that bird of prey in BoT - that really did annoy me about ENT.
I'm not a "hater," and I don't have any conception of what a "perfect" Star Trek series would be against which I'm comparing DSC. My complaints are simply that DSC has been a very mixed bag. Some good stories, but more bad ones, with lots of questionable plot logic, mishandled themes, and unearned payoffs. Some good acting, but more performances that are adequate at best. Some good visual designs, but more that leave me shaking my head in frustration.
It just doesn't compare well to the critical standards of other high-profile TV series out there, SF and otherwise (never mind other Trek shows). I'd like to be able to count any new Star Trek series among, say, my top ten TV shows, at the very least, but with DSC I really can't.
From a business standpoint, it's undeniably true that any "older fanbase" is going to be less important to producers than the coveted 18-34 market, frustrating as that may be. From an artistic standpoint, however, that kind of reasoning doesn't justify anything whatsoever.
And yet somehow my original TOS DVDs still play just fine. Or the Remastered Blu-rays if you don't mind a little revision.
They can't overwrite anything. They can revise or recontextualize it for a new setting, but that doesn't erase what came before any more than the changes to the Klingons in TMP did. You're still free to enjoy TOS exactly as it was, just like I can still enjoy A New Hope without Greedo shooting first and missing Han from two feet away, or I can pop in the Special Edition and watch Han step on Jabba's tail and totally undermine his rep as a badass gangster.
It's an age of wondrous possibilities.
Wait....you have the "unspecial" version??????????
I'm not talking about the show existing, I watched several episodes just the other night. On Blu-ray!
I'm talking about its place in the supposed Prime universe. That is slowly but surely being overwritten. Which is fine. But I don't expect TPTB to piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining. Just tell me you're pissing on my shoes and get it over with.
I'm not talking about the show existing, I watched several episodes just the other night. On Blu-ray!
I'm talking about its place in the supposed Prime universe. That is slowly but surely being overwritten.
Most people who've liked Star Trek will never notice; STD is a footnote.
Too early to say that.
I'm not talking about the show existing, I watched several episodes just the other night. On Blu-ray!
I'm talking about its place in the supposed Prime universe. That is slowly but surely being overwritten. Which is fine. But I don't expect TPTB to piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining. Just tell me you're pissing on my shoes and get it over with.
They’re both the same ship, it just looks different in DSC, that is all. Really isn’t that difficult
Well heck, I can go out and buy a POS '86 Mustang and tell everyone that it is the same as a '64. That is the way the world works now? We just relabel and ride the coattails of what was popular before!
The Mustang isn’t a fictional spaceship.
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I meant one that's been beat to the point of no return. Why I put "POS" before it. I have an overall fondness for the Fox Body. I should've used the '79 Mustang II.
Sadly that’s why there have been 2 Jurassic World movies.
No, the Enterprise is. But if I was to buy a modern American standard stratocaster and tell everyone it was a genuine 54 strat that was “reimagined” or that had some “details” changed that would be the same kind of thing: saying that a newer copy was an icon. In this analogy the Enterprise is the 54 Strat. The modern strat looks similar, plays similar and sounds similar through an amp - but I couldn’t claim that Hank Marvin played it, nor was it ever featured on a shadows record. Star Trek is the shadows record in this analogy. The DSC Enterprise is the modern strat. Although the guitar and the fictional starship are not the same kind of entity, their relationship to each other is analogous
No, the Enterprise is. But if I was to buy a modern American standard stratocaster and tell everyone it was a genuine 54 strat that was “reimagined” or that had some “details” changed that would be the same kind of thing: saying that a newer copy was an icon. In this analogy the Enterprise is the 54 Strat. The modern strat looks similar, plays similar and sounds similar through an amp - but I couldn’t claim that Hank Marvin played it, nor was it ever featured on a shadows record. Star Trek is the shadows record in this analogy. The DSC Enterprise is the modern strat. Although the guitar and the fictional starship are not the same kind of entity, their relationship to each other is analogous
I can put Kroger toilet paper in a Cottenelle package. But it sure isn't Cottenelle!
I used to know this guy, every time someone commented on how pretty a sunset or sunrise was, he'd turn and say "But do you know why?" and then try to murder the moment with a discourse on particulates in air pollution. He got to be a parody of himself. People would knowingly try to bring up something pleasant to see those massive eyebrows raise a milimeter or two and the neck turn as if on queue to try and add his gloomy erudition.
anyway.. forgot what I was saying.
I owned one of those, too.I meant one that's been beat to the point of no return. Why I put "POS" before it. I have an overall fondness for the Fox Body. I should've used the '79 Mustang II.
Okay, mine was a 1977.
It was a piece of shit.
I guess.
But I wasn't a day at the beach myself in the 70s, so...
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