Paramount Confirms TWO Star Trek films currently in the works!
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TF6 pulled from its 2019 summer release date, wonder if ST4 is now going to be Paramounts big summer movie instead..
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Would there even be enough time? There's no news on production even starting as of yet. Surely they'd need more than a year to put this together.
It seems that Paramount have been sitting on the ST4 script for years, and now they've got a director. I think the only issue would be actor availability.
That seems an inaccurate way of putting it. They may have chosen to proceed with a basic idea that originally went into development years ago, but "sitting on it" implies it's just been inert and unchanging the whole time, and that's not how the immensely convoluted process of feature-film script development works. An idea usually goes through numerous drafts and revisions before reaching the screen, and often multiple competing ideas will be developed at the same time and bits and pieces of them eventually mashed up into the final film. Sometimes that process entails going back to an older idea and reviving it as part of a newer draft, but that doesn't mean they've already had a complete script that they'll just start shooting without changes. There's no way a new director would come in and not order a new rewrite of an existing script, or even choose to toss it out altogether and start fresh. Well, unless they were brought in right before shooting when the budget was already locked and they couldn't make any major changes, as with Brett Ratner on X-Men: The Last Stand. But that's not the case here. They're still in pre-production, so that means the script is still in flux, no matter how long its basic premise has been in the works.
they'd have to start shooting like right now. that would give them the same amount of turnaround time (roughly 13 months) as star trek beyond and that film was so rushed that justin lin didn't consider it fully locked until the blu ray release.
by comparison, star trek into darkness took about 17 months from the start of production to the day of release. and none of these timelines consider preproduction.
i wouldn't expect trek 4 until fall 2019 at the soonest, but most likely spring or summer 2020. love your optimism though.
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just noticed Top Gun 2 is summer 2019 so looks like Para has got a big summer movie lined up anyway. sounds like ST4 be summer 2020 then - 4 years. again 
and be missing out on the 10th ann of ST09 (plus TMPs 40th - unless they aiming for oct/nov '19 (away from Ep IX in dec)
early days but looking at summer '20 - Kong v Zilla, 2 untitled MCUs & DCUs, Six Billion $ Man, and Indy 5 (3rd time for an Indy/Trek summer?)
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&yr=2020&p=.htm
and be missing out on the 10th ann of ST09 (plus TMPs 40th - unless they aiming for oct/nov '19 (away from Ep IX in dec)early days but looking at summer '20 - Kong v Zilla, 2 untitled MCUs & DCUs, Six Billion $ Man, and Indy 5 (3rd time for an Indy/Trek summer?)
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&yr=2020&p=.htm
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If we take Beyond as a template, it was 1.5 years from the announcement of director Justin Lin, until the release date. And that was a compressed schedule. Summer or Fall 2020 is likely.
I’m just hoping we see an updated fleet in 4. Seems like they would’ve had time to refit a lot of ships. Would be cool to see what the recovered vengeance tech leads to
2020 was my head-canon last hope for ST4 back when none of us thought it was happening.
Weirdly, many of the "young" TOS crew are now older than their counterparts when they were playing the roles in TOS.
I am looking forward to the films - and their merchandise. If it’s any way like Beyond, then the 2020 movie will feature a cool Trek ship that we’ll get, oh, maybe half a year later in some fashion and another half-year on as detailed model.
(Hopes to be proven wrong).
(Hopes to be proven wrong).
That's a sobering thought.
It also lends one to the idea that they've already got their eye on the next way to reboot the franchise on the big screen, as all these guys have now been playing the roles for a decade... by this point in TNG's cycle we were getting First Contact.
That 'new phone feeling' just isn't around them anymore, but maybe someone at Paramount still feels they deserve a finale to call their own. 
and TOS crew were getting started on TFF..
Well, Beyond was set in 2263, so they were already close to catching up with the ages of the crew in the second pilot and TOS. Which means the fourth film will probably be set contemporaneously with TOS.
That's a sobering thought.
It also lends one to the idea that they've already got their eye on the next way to reboot the franchise on the big screen, as all these guys have now been playing the roles for a decade... by this point in TNG's cycle we were getting First Contact.
Excellent point, and a much better analogy for what I was trying to say
STV was the movie where the press started making all those gags about 'Star Trek VI: The search for zimmer frames' and so on; yes the Kelvinverse crew are hardly at the level of maturity the originals were in 1989 but they're also at this point hardly the 'fresh face of Star Trek' anymore. The tide of time is passing them by, the great level of newness they had in 2009 (which Paramount arguably squandered through poor marketing) is now impossible to regain. But handled properly, I personally don't feel they couldn't do at least two more movies, but I feel sure Paramount already have their eye on the next big refresh so they can recapture some of that 2009 buzz again. 
In light of Infinity War etc, I wonder if the two pronged movie idea is actually a way towards this? ST2009-4 will be one more adventure yarn for the crew, then the Taratino movie will be a torch passing to a new cast, or maybe a crisis on infinite earths type deal or something that realigns the timelines (or reboots them to something new again).
If they allow the same in-universe time to pass between movies as they are real world time, that would be ST4 in 2267. Same year that the Doomsday Machine destroys L-374 and the Constellation. Just sayin'.
The last thing I want is another rehash of a story that's already been told. The whole reason they branched off a new timeline, theoretically, was so that they could tell new stories with the TOS characters.
I very much enjoyed what they did in Into Darkness, putting familiar characters into new scenarios. The Doomsday Machine is a fairly generic engine of destruction which could be used as a backdrop for just about anything.
Characters, sure. But the Doomsday Machine is a scenario.
What worked about STID was that they found a new story to tell about Khan. What didn't work was the part where they tried to copy the previous story about Khan with the stupid, stupid warp core death scene.
Except we've already had two Trek movies about gigantic planet-destroying alien objects. And you just know they'd insist on putting Earth in danger this time.
And just imagine the purists' whining when they redesign the thing. "But it's supposed to branch off of the same timeline! So the Doomsday Machine should look exactly like it did in 1967, like a fiberglass cone wrapped in acetate and Scotch tape!"
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