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Do you think Barclay and Troi had sex when they went on a date at the end of "The Nth Degree"?

Such issues have been explored in great depth in literary science fiction.

Kor
 
Since she was apparently the Enterprise's (only) staff counselor, she was everybody's counselor, including Riker.

Kor
The show never stated she was the only therapist, there are over 1000 crew on board we only saw core characters relevant to the plot of the week
 
My ‘Rude not to’ comment was a reference to an episode of a classic sci fi comedy, one I was reasonably confident that everyone attending a site such as this would have seen and got.
Red Dwarf: Holoship.
Why would you assume everyone here has seen Red Dwarf?

Have you seen every science fiction/fantasy show I've seen?
 
You know the question might have been, yes if Roddenberry got to do is idea of sex instructors or something like that. That or if they had been even less original and made her Deltan like the character they kind of copied to create the Troi character.

Jason
 
everyone would in society would have learn a a almost endless number of sexual manners which nobody would ever want to do.

That is, in itself, rather pathetic.

Even in the freest of "free love" societies (such as "Brave New World" and its ilk), no one should be pressured into sex that they don't want.

You'd think that in societies like that, there would always be a ready supply of willing partners to find. Meaning, if you are out and about, looking for a quick fling, and you encounter somebody who is just not into you, you can find someone else who is. There'd be no need to pressure people into sex, or lay a guilt trip on them.

And if you're the type who isn't into casual encounters and who wants a permanent attachment? There should be room for that as well.
 
Deanna's professional ethics are solid. I don't see any reason to dispute that. I honestly don't recall ever seeing her commit a serious ethical violation.
Masterpiece Society is darn near a prime directive violation, & The Price is pretty dicey too. I'm not disagreeing with you. On the whole her ethics are solid IMHO, but everybody has a slip up or 2.
I think Troi was more promiscuous than was shown in the series.
I actually think quite the opposite. For a Betazoid? Her exchanges with her mother indicate an unusually sexual conservative demeanor, for her culture. She seems almost embarrassed by how her mother behaves in matters of romance, & has near to none of that casual attitude in her own life. She is shown exhibiting a lot of restraint with someone onboard who'd been highly intimate with her, & in my own personal assessment, she seems a little repressed, eating chocolate all the time, or her & Bev getting all Nosey Nellie now & then lol :lol: Just kidding
 
Why wouldn’t I? :shrug:
No, why would you? This is a forum with an international membership, and there are shows that people in one country have heard of but people in other countries aren't so familiar with. Or it's a situation where people just plain don't like that type of show.

That's my situation with Red Dwarf. I tried it, found it dumb, and never watched it again. So why the hell should I know every Red Dwarf reference people make here? It's not a requirement for joining the forum, any more than being familiar with every Simpsons, Seinfeld, or Big Bang Theory reference is a requirement (I've just named 3 shows that are/were insanely popular in the U.S. but I've either seen very little of them or haven't seen them at all and couldn't care less if I ever do).

Probably, if you stopped watching anything made after 1995.
What does 1995 have to do with anything?

Is it just me or does this thread lack levity?
Sorry, but levity is also not a requirement here. There are some serious issues being brought up in this thread, regarding the ethics of medical professionals starting relationships with their patients and/or Starfleet officers with lower-ranking officers.

That is, in itself, rather pathetic.

Even in the freest of "free love" societies (such as "Brave New World" and its ilk), no one should be pressured into sex that they don't want.
Except that they are pressured in Brave New World. It's considered immoral and disgusting to sleep with the same person to the exclusion of all others, or even just prefer one person more than others. And people who don't want sex in that world are considered mentally ill.
 
That's sort of a horrifying thought.
Not everyone require psychological attention. One psychological councilor might be plenty for the couple of dozen crewmembers with the inclination to have psychological problems.

It would make sense that Starfleet actively tries to exclude such people.
I've never even heard of Red Dwarf.
I've seen a couple of episodes and the all male crew didn't seem to be having sex with each other.
 
I've never even heard of Red Dwarf.
Same, I totally have no idea what Red Dwarf is. I know that joke from The Orville, it was Rob Lowe's race feel it's rude to turn down requests for sex, there's a whole episode about it, both the captain and his ex wife are both having sex with him.
 
I've heard of Red Dwarf and it feels like a Red Dwarf joke from what I have heard about the show though I guess I should someday get around and watch Red Dwarf. I've only heard good things, except the American version which totally blows even though I think some of same actors were used.

Jason
 
Such as Barclay?
Exactly, if Reg's various problems were identifiable at the time he applied to Starfleet, would they have let him into the academy? The problems might have manifested themselves later in life. At which point he was already in so they psychologically treated Reg the best they could.

If Reg's problem had been above a set level he could have been discharged.
a Red Dwarf joke
Take the Orville's jokes, go several level more low brow, and there's Red Dwarf's jokes.
 
Exactly, if Reg's various problems were identifiable at the time he applied to Starfleet, would they have let him into the academy? The problems might have manifested themselves later in life. At which point he was already in so they psychologically treated Reg the best they could.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say although we have no way of knowing for sure, it's very unlikely Reg wasn't already showing some evidence at the time of his academy years. What you are suggesting pretty much runs counter to everything we know about the ethos of Starfleet and the show in real world terms.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say although we have no way of knowing for sure, it's very unlikely Reg wasn't already showing some evidence at the time of his academy years. What you are suggesting pretty much runs counter to everything we know about the ethos of Starfleet and the show in real world terms.
Dude's been avoiding transporters his whole life. I too find it a little hard to believe Reg was as well adjusted as any other person joining Starfleet. No one is suddenly stricken with that kind of social awkwardness. I can't recall when, but I'm pretty sure he's made mention of his academy days being awkward as well. Maybe things have gotten worse or more noticeable, but nah, he's always been in need of therapy. Riker, on the other hand? His mental health issues probably did spring up as a result of his service
 
Dude's been avoiding transporters his whole life. I too find it a little hard to believe Reg was as well adjusted as any other person joining Starfleet. No one is suddenly stricken with that kind of social awkwardness. I can't recall when, but I'm pretty sure he's made mention of his academy days being awkward as well. Maybe things have gotten worse or more noticeable, but nah, he's always been in need of therapy. Riker, on the other hand? His mental health issues probably did spring up as a result of his service

Oh yes, absolutely people in any kind of uniformed service are likely to develop mental health problems, much more so than in a civilian population. It's just that I just don't see Starfleet being discriminatory except in the most unavoidable necessity.
 
What you are suggesting pretty much runs counter to everything we know about the ethos of Starfleet and the show in real world terms.
I don't think so, more than once on the show it's been said that there a steep selection process to gain entry into Starfleet, it's just plain hard to get in.

In addition, Barclay said that his fear of the transporter was based upon his detailed knowledge of it, would he have possessed that detailed knowledge as a older teenager prior to entering Starfleet and going through Starfleet technical training?
 
I don't think so, more than once on the show it's been said that there a steep selection process to gain entry into Starfleet, it's just plain hard to get in.

In addition, Barclay said that his fear of the transporter was based upon his detailed knowledge of it, would he have possessed that detailed knowledge as a older teenager prior to entering Starfleet and going through Starfleet technical training?

Difficult does not mean discriminatory
 
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