Just watched season 1 of discovery

[gazomg]

Watched this over the last few days and was more than pleasantly surprised.
I did set the bar very low much like I did for those awful abrams movies, but Discovery was far better than I expected. I think Isaacs performances added some gravitas, and loved the character.
I was afraid after the first couple of episodes that Burnham might be too much of a figure that would dominate the show much as Janeway did in voyager but it was ok.

I know in these days of PC you expect gay characters and thought Stamets was a good character, and the Ash Tyler thing was decent.

My main bones of contention was tilly, first off she claimed she was special needs, and was also far too heavy to be a cadet.
Before anyone jumps on this moaning I have a problem with special needs or heavy people, the issue is the context in that I could not see any flagship having an overweight cadet let alone one that claimed she was special needs.
The Klingons still bother me with their look, and the Georgiou character was awful.
That said I did enjoy it a lot and look forward to season 2.
Is it proper trek in the canon sense....jury is still out on that.

 

[ozzfloyd]

Huh? Disc is not the flagship and weren't Tilly's "special needs" jut that she had allergies?

 

[Jesse1066]

Is there a weight limit for cadets?

 

[Refuge]

Even Tilly knew she had to be in shape to be a Captain one day - hence the running and training with her mentor - Michael who herself is fit. Can't say Dad was a cadet but when he went back into the SAS he lost a ton of weight and got crazy fit. Yet I don't think Tilly's build was inappropriate for her job.

Isn't a flag ship a lead vessel? Usually with a flag officer or the commander though. In Discovery's case she was in someways the lead vessel - only one that could do these jump attacks. She had distinction for her weapon/drive advantage.

 

[Vger23]

Tilly's "special needs" were allergies to the standard bedding used in most crew quarters.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Is there a weight limit for cadets?

There isn't for chief engineers in the 23rd century

 

[Mage]

I think there's a difference between having severe allergies and special needs....

And Discovery isn't a flagship at all. Star Trek and a lot of its fans have mis-used that term A LOT.

 

[Refuge]

It is the oddest way to simply say someone has allergies though. Special needs usually refers to more and Tilly is clearly a drip.

 

[Vger23]

I think there's a difference between having severe allergies and special needs....

And Discovery isn't a flagship at all. Star Trek and a lot of its fans have mis-used that term A LOT.

It is the oddest way to simply say someone has allergies though. Special needs usually refers to more and Tilly is clearly a drip.

It's extraordinarily clear in the episode that she's referring to allergies. Like crystal clear.

 

[Mage]

It's extraordinarily clear in the episode that she's referring to allergies. Like crystal clear.

yes, I know. I was commenting on the OP talking about Tilly having special needs.....

 

[fireproof78]

the issue is the context in that I could not see any flagship having an overweight cadet let alone one that claimed she was special needs.

I didn't think Discovery was a flag ship.

 

[Longinus]

I didn't think Discovery was a flag ship.

Many Star Trek fans seem to think that basically every ship is flagship. No, original Enterprise wants't one either.

 

[Tuskin38]

he issue is the context in that I could not see any flagship having an overweight cadet let alone one that claimed she was special needs.

1. the Discovery is not the Flag Ship
2. Her special needs were her allergies.

 

[cultcross]

Many Star Trek fans seem to think that basically every ship is flagship. No, original Enterprise wants't one either.

Indeed. To my knowledge the Enterprise D is the only ship ever confirmed as the 'flagship' on screen.

 

[Tenacity]

2. Her special needs were her allergies.

I thought her special need was she wasn't able to stop talking, which drove her room mates nuts.

 

[fireproof78]

I thought her special need was she wasn't able to stop talking, which drove her room mates nuts.

Nope, that's a feature.

 

[Refuge]

I thought her special need was she wasn't able to stop talking, which drove her room mates nuts.

Funny

 

[F. King Daniel]

Indeed. To my knowledge the Enterprise D is the only ship ever confirmed as the 'flagship' on screen.

The Kelvin universe 1701 is called "Our newest flagship" in ST'09.

 

[Michael]

Having just seen Mary Wiseman in person over the weekend at Destination Star Trek in Dortmund I can definitely confirm that she is nowhere near anything resembling “heavy”. She might not conform to current Hollywood beauty standards of body forms, but “heavy”? No. Way.

 

[Kor]

Heavy? Really??

Based on height/weight stats for Wiseman that are available online, she is well within both army and navy physical fitness standards (and I looked up both US and UK for comparison).

Kor