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Agents of SHIELD season 5

Yeah, I always forget that they have Icers unless they explicitly remind us...I thought they'd just shot him dead.
 
Yeah, I always forget that they have Icers unless they explicitly remind us...I thought they'd just shot him dead.

Ditto. I have the same problem with the "trank bullets" that Spartan and Wild Dog use on Arrow. They rarely mention in dialogue that they're nonlethal, and the sound effect isn't much different from that of a regular gun, so it's hard to remember.
 
Ditto. I have the same problem with the "trank bullets" that Spartan and Wild Dog use on Arrow. They rarely mention in dialogue that they're nonlethal, and the sound effect isn't much different from that of a regular gun, so it's hard to remember.
I disagree - the icers have a distinct blue flash, and an electronic "zap" sound, as well as a silver band at the mouth of the barrel. Of course, projecting the show on a screen as large as a bed sheet helps somewhat. :p

FitzSimmons really ought to have refused to cooperate, even at the cost of their own lives, given the stakes. (Not to mention their apparent invincibility - as Jemma had pointed out, it was a win-win situation: either they're invincible, or, if they die, the world might survive.) And von Strucker died before we really got a chance to discover whether Ruby had any genuine interest in him, or was purely playing him (as I'd suspected). Speaking of which, I wonder if Ruby might not get some kind of gravitonium re-animation... (And how did Hale teleport into space, again? Was it Ruby's dying gesture, or did Hale have one of those transporter beacons from Star Trek Nemesis?)

This was another cool ep, but the budget seams are really grating on me; if everything else wasn't firing on all cylinders, I'd be downright peeved.
 
The blue, at least, is quite distinctive. I definitely caught it when live.

I also appreciate that they use some explanation other than tranquilizers for how they work just because tranqs could either not work or could still kill.
 
I disagree - the icers have a distinct blue flash, and an electronic "zap" sound, as well as a silver band at the mouth of the barrel. Of course, projecting the show on a screen as large as a bed sheet helps somewhat. :p

Neither my TV nor my eyes have good enough resolution for me to make out such details easily, it seems.

(And how did Hale teleport into space, again? Was it Ruby's dying gesture, or did Hale have one of those transporter beacons from Star Trek Nemesis?)

She used the same teleport device she used to bring Coulson to meet Qovas several episodes earlier, and that Coulson and Talbot then recalibrated to ground level to make their escape. When she materialized in the ship, her hand was still in a raised position as if she'd just pulled one of the handles on the teleporter.
 
Where was the teleporter? Cloaked?

As we've been shown several times in earlier episodes, the teleporter remains where it is and only sends the traveler. Don't you remember? Big upright cylindrical doohickey with handles on the sides? Holographic display overhead? You pull one of the handles, you get teleported somewhere else?
 
As we've been shown several times in earlier episodes, the teleporter remains where it is and only sends the traveler. Don't you remember? Big upright cylindrical doohickey with handles on the sides? Holographic display overhead? You pull one of the handles, you get teleported somewhere else?
Yeah, and? Where was it in the room for them to use? The dame floats up, explodes, and then Hale is transported to alien land. Hale never uses the teleporter.
 
Yeah, and? Where was it in the room for them to use? The dame floats up, explodes, and then Hale is transported to alien land. Hale never uses the teleporter.

What in the world are you talking about? Those were separate scenes shown several minutes apart, with a commercial break in between. Obviously Hale slipped out of the room when nobody was looking, went back to the Hydra base (which is in a totally different location), and used the teleporter at that base to travel up to the Confederacy ship and report to Qovas. They didn't show that part to us because they've already established the teleporter several times already and expected their audience to remember it.
 
What in the world are you talking about? Those were separate scenes shown several minutes apart, with a commercial break in between. Obviously Hale slipped out of the room when nobody was looking, went back to the Hydra base (which is in a totally different location), and used the teleporter at that base to travel up to the Confederacy ship and report to Qovas. They didn't show that part to us because they've already established the teleporter several times already and expected their audience to remember it.
So now Hale has a mutant healing factor and a Predator cloak which allows her sneak past all the SHIELD members who didn't get knocked out and make it all the way back to wherever her base is. Yeah, sure. Great editing job there.
 
Slipping away unseen is a classic ability of TV/movie bad guys. This can't possibly be the first time you've ever seen that trope used.
 
It's a particular problem in The Flash, where they keep having the Flash be flummoxed that a bad guy "disappeared" moments before, even though it would take him like a tenth of a second to catch up to a villain fleeing at normal speed. Ditto on Supergirl.
 
There were a couple shots that seemed to show off her fancy-looking belt-buckle as if it were important (at least, I noticed it for the first time). After the post-credits, I figured that it was some sort of recall for the teleporter. Of course, there is also the possibility she just hauled ass the old-fashioned way.
 
I assumed that Hale just slipped away in the confusion, as villains do, and somehow got back to her transporter device. (Honestly, I just used the same trope in a book. "Wait. Where did he go?")

As for Talbot, I will say that Coulson dropped the ball a little there. Talbot literally warned him, "She broke me, Phil" more than once, but I guess the full implications of that didn't sink in . . ..
 
As for Talbot, I will say that Coulson dropped the ball a little there. Talbot literally warned him, "She broke me, Phil" more than once, but I guess the full implications of that didn't sink in . . ..

Coulson probably assumed that Talbot meant she'd gotten the information she wanted (which is what most people think when we hear that some-one was "broken") rather than thinking of Hale implanting subconcious control (and talbot might not have even been aware of it).

On the other hand Coulson is very familiar with Hydra's way of doing things so yeah he probably did drop the ball a bit there :)
 
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