Spoilers Justice League - Grading and Discussion
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Interesting bit of what could have been, this image recently turned up online and apparently shows the costumes which were supposed to be used in George Miller's canceled "Justice League: Mortal" movie:
Those sound alike to me.
I guess it should be listed as "arrogant doctor accent" in some official accent book.
Ah yes, Byudapest.
A little known suburb to the east of the capital (since absorbed by urban sprawl).
Those sound alike to me.
I guess it should be listed as "arrogant doctor accent" in some official accent book.
Hugh Laurie's accent was particularly good and fooled many Americans who only knew him from house.
Cumberbatch's accent is fine, as he is supposed to be a pretentious character and that's the way it comes off.
I remember the way he said "clerk" which basically sounded like the name Clark in an American accent.
People are always complaining about Katie McGrath's American accent slipping on Supergirl. I never really notice it, myself. So it's probably no surprise that Cavill's sounds seamless to me.
Interesting bit of what could have been, this image recently turned up online and apparently shows the costumes which were supposed to be used in George Miller's canceled "Justice League: Mortal" movie:
Better look at D.J. Cotrona as Superman
and, not new but as a reminder, Megan Gale as Wonder Woman:
Me too. Sounded like the standard Brit trying to sound American accent, all flat and nasal but unlike any accent found in America.
I honestly just assumed that her backstory involved the Luthors sending her to be raised in Europe or something.
Oh, that's right he just had it for the reshoots, I was thinking he had through all of principal photography too.There were already filmed scenes sans facial hair. They'd have had to reshoot all of Cavill's scenes if they wanted to keep the soup strainer.
I never had any issues with either of their accents.
Laurie actually did all of his auditions and stuff with his American accent, and the producers hadn't heard of him, so they actually thought he was American when they hired him.
Right. I don't understand all of the accent critiques I'm reading. I am a Canadian who speaks with a different accent because i've been living abroad for many years. but I don't think there was ever a time when I could map in my mind all the different North American accents enough to say Laurie or Cumberbatch's accents aren't authentic to any North American region.
But since we are speaking of accents, did anyone notice that Gal Gadot's accent in Justice League seems to have changed from her previous two movies?
Not on any of the Doctor Who episodes I've seen.
Just ended? I'm more curious how it should have been in its entirety prior to all the meddling...
The movie was meddled with in the very beginning when the studio imposed a lighter tone and 2 hour runtime on Snyder - both restrictions making him the wrong man for the job. After he left even deeper meddling was done via Joss Whedon's direction....Just ended? I'm more curious how it should have been in its entirety prior to all the meddling...
I finally gave this a spin, having read and watched nearly all the spoilers, and expecting watchable mediocrity. Instead... woof. It's terrible. Watchable, but only barely, thanks largely to Gadot and the sheer car-wreck fascination factor.
The story is a shambolic, half-assed rip-off of The Avengers. (To quote Cap: if any comics experts want to point out that actually, this or that DC thing came before this or that Marvel thing in print: "Son... just don't.") The dialogue is honkingly bad, with the exception of a few decent Whedon cracks here and there. I was genuinely embarrassed by the camera's fixation on Gadot's ass. (Don't get me wrong, I'm all for gratuitous fanservice in its proper context, but said context is not an ostensibly all-ages entertainment such as this.) The villain is a complete joke. I have nothing against CG characters - I think Apocalypse should have been one - but Ciarán Hinds has one of the most badass faces around, so WTF is the point of casting him and not at least using his features as the basis for a CG model? CG characters should have exaggerated features, like Gollum or Hulk, to make up for the detail lost without human actors, but Steppenwolf's face looked easily achievable with makeup/prosthetics.
That whole Russian family... WTF? Wait, the little girl finds a can of bug spray, so she's going to get a Big Damn Heroes moment spraying one of the mosquito men, right? No? Then what's the point?
Bruce (who, without his irrational but zealous BvS murderousness, is boring as hell here) only summoning Lois as a "contingency" if the revived Clark freaks out, instead of the default plan... what? And why is her appearance treated like a reveal, when we have that useless scene of Martha and Lois earlier?! ("Surprise! The character you already saw in this movie is in this movie! Bet you didn't see that coming!") Also, Cavill/Supes looked weird, and I don't think it was just the Uncanny Lip. The Lisa Frank Purple-looking suit didn't help, of course, and maybe it was the way its texture made the whole of him look ridiculous at all times, but, I dunno, he looked bad.
And, "Mother Boxes"? Really? Um... No? (And what was with all those gratuitous swears?) Also: I thought we'd left grunge/nu-metal music cues back in the W. Bush years?
Ezra Milller's Barry/Flash was... fine? He was fine. I almost forgot about Cyborg - a nothing character whose design looks terrible, and whose entire role is a poor retread of Vision. As for Aquaman... bleeeaaaarrrrgggghhh. And if Diana can outrun bullets all of a sudden, why does she keep letting the villain smack her?
This wasn't quite a Terminator Genisys or Star Trek Beyond-level fiasco, but it wasn't far off. I've always said that, permissive IP rights notwithstanding, Batman and Superman don't belong in the same live-action universe, nor does Supes belong in a universe with other superheroes, and I feel entirely vindicated on both counts here. I give Justice League, absolutely pathetic end-credits scene and all, what the AV Club commentariat has so sagely termed the "Gentleman's F": a
D+
The story is a shambolic, half-assed rip-off of The Avengers. (To quote Cap: if any comics experts want to point out that actually, this or that DC thing came before this or that Marvel thing in print: "Son... just don't.") The dialogue is honkingly bad, with the exception of a few decent Whedon cracks here and there. I was genuinely embarrassed by the camera's fixation on Gadot's ass. (Don't get me wrong, I'm all for gratuitous fanservice in its proper context, but said context is not an ostensibly all-ages entertainment such as this.) The villain is a complete joke. I have nothing against CG characters - I think Apocalypse should have been one - but Ciarán Hinds has one of the most badass faces around, so WTF is the point of casting him and not at least using his features as the basis for a CG model? CG characters should have exaggerated features, like Gollum or Hulk, to make up for the detail lost without human actors, but Steppenwolf's face looked easily achievable with makeup/prosthetics.
That whole Russian family... WTF? Wait, the little girl finds a can of bug spray, so she's going to get a Big Damn Heroes moment spraying one of the mosquito men, right? No? Then what's the point?
Bruce (who, without his irrational but zealous BvS murderousness, is boring as hell here) only summoning Lois as a "contingency" if the revived Clark freaks out, instead of the default plan... what? And why is her appearance treated like a reveal, when we have that useless scene of Martha and Lois earlier?! ("Surprise! The character you already saw in this movie is in this movie! Bet you didn't see that coming!") Also, Cavill/Supes looked weird, and I don't think it was just the Uncanny Lip. The Lisa Frank Purple-looking suit didn't help, of course, and maybe it was the way its texture made the whole of him look ridiculous at all times, but, I dunno, he looked bad.
And, "Mother Boxes"? Really? Um... No? (And what was with all those gratuitous swears?) Also: I thought we'd left grunge/nu-metal music cues back in the W. Bush years?
Ezra Milller's Barry/Flash was... fine? He was fine. I almost forgot about Cyborg - a nothing character whose design looks terrible, and whose entire role is a poor retread of Vision. As for Aquaman... bleeeaaaarrrrgggghhh. And if Diana can outrun bullets all of a sudden, why does she keep letting the villain smack her?
This wasn't quite a Terminator Genisys or Star Trek Beyond-level fiasco, but it wasn't far off. I've always said that, permissive IP rights notwithstanding, Batman and Superman don't belong in the same live-action universe, nor does Supes belong in a universe with other superheroes, and I feel entirely vindicated on both counts here. I give Justice League, absolutely pathetic end-credits scene and all, what the AV Club commentariat has so sagely termed the "Gentleman's F": a
D+
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