That leaked test Discovery looks so good. I like it more than the final version.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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Yeah if they only angle them upwards a bit, it looks good.
Here are images of a design that is sort of halfway between the Discoprise and the JJprise. Very nicely done:
I also think this is really great:
I also think this is really great:
I really can't stand the bulbous, oversized nacelles that are characteristic of the JJprise. (I still wonder what Ryan Church was thinking.) Nonetheless, I do kinda like these designs... in particular for one thing they get right that DSC completely botched, which is that they all have an elegant, smooth, clearly lit off-white-to-grayish surface with clear lighting. The folks doing the FX for DSC seem insanely fond of reflective metallic surfaces with garishly overdone aztecing, and deep shadows offset by harsh blue-toned light.
Here are images of a design that is sort of halfway between the Discoprise and the JJprise. Very nicely done:
I also think this is really great:
Good stuff.
So now we know they scaled up the Discoprise to match Discovery, who's gonna be first to explain how Starfleet...
1. Built the USS Enterprise as seen in "The Cage"
2. Gave her a complete TMP-style refit and then blasted her with an enlarging ray in time for "Will You Take My Hand"
3. Reversed said refit and blasted her with a shrinking ray in time for "Where No Man Has Gone Before"
4. Gave her a minor refit for TOS proper
...with a straight face?
1. Built the USS Enterprise as seen in "The Cage"
2. Gave her a complete TMP-style refit and then blasted her with an enlarging ray in time for "Will You Take My Hand"
3. Reversed said refit and blasted her with a shrinking ray in time for "Where No Man Has Gone Before"
4. Gave her a minor refit for TOS proper
...with a straight face?
Oh, I'm sure you'll find somebody. 
...again: The length of the TOS Enterprise has never been specified on screen. Yes, there was this one episode where they had a graphic. But come on, how reliably have background graphics been...ever... on Star Trek?
I'm much more comfortable with a size for the Constitution that fits two(!) decks into the saucer section, which also have to match up with the set size. Instead of the current "official" size where the saucer has 1 1/2 decks made for people not taller than 1.5 meters....
This is the least of my concerns. They SHOULDN'T scale her up to the level of the JJprise (four levels on the saucer, making her bigger than Picards Ent-D, is ridiculous for a crew of 400). But IMO it's not a canon inaccuracy if it doesn't actually contradict canon, and slightly scaled up is actually the only way the original design makes SENSE.
(Note: Specifically talking about the size of the ship here. The re-imagineng I'm not a fan of, nor do I dislike it really)
I'm pretty sure Star Trek III has pages from the old Star Fleet Technical Manual used as bridge graphics, giving the size as 289m, deck plans from the old USS Enterprise Booklet of General Plans were on the bridge for the first three movies and "In a Mirror, Darkly" had a cutaway showing the deck layout.
And besides, the idea of them rebuilding the Enterprise and then turning it back and then rebuilding it again is absolutely preposterous, even if we ignore the re-scaling. But if Discovery is it's own world where the Enterprise always looked like that and was always that size? No problem.
One so big, TOS essentially didn't happen making Discovery it's own seperate world as I've been saying all along and the VFX people agree
I like them too, and they match the iBridge aesthetic on the JJprise.
You realized those blueprints cheated the fuck out of the pages to make it work? Like scaling entire sets to half their size, and drawing tiny <4'' dwarf humans inside to make it look as if sizes fit?
Nope.
FX people are not the writers, they don't get to decide these things.
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That's pretty much the description for the Phase II concept.
The filming model was never completed before they went with TMP, so the Mike Minor artwork and the poster art, that's what we have as far as what they meant to do in the late 70's.
If there's a drawing of a scale human being in the original blueprints i missed it.
The sets from TOS are generally scaled appropriately - in the case of the Bridge, Joseph scaled the diameter up, whether to fill the dome or through misinterpretation of the reference material is hard to say..
Several sets, like the engine room and model hangar bay, were built in forced perspective. Joseph idealized those designs; they fit.
He also modified the curvature of some set walls to place them on the concentric corridors he wished. That was not a matter of over or underscaling.
All in all, the Enterprise design as presented on screen works shockingly well at the 947-foot scale. "Trek tech" fandom would probably never have become a thing if the original designs had been as haphazard as the Abrams and STD reboots.
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