Star Trek: Starships Model/Magazine Subscription

[pst]

I've not experienced that particular issue - seems to be new - but my other negative experiences are well-documented. I just thank my lucky stars that sometimes they do manage to get things right, but it does appear to be hit-or-miss most of the time.

after some deliberation (stewing), i sent them an email asking them to cancel my subscription.

i was happy ordering and pre-ordering through the store, it was a more straightforward process, i'll do the same with discovery. i'm also fairly certain i don't want that janky bird-of-prey and was planning to cancel when the collection got to the klingon ships anyway. hell i might even receive my issues on time if i'm not a subscriber.

 

[Tuskin38]

From the Facebook group: videos showing the Klingon ships (DSC) in the Adversaries game.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1628123504177653?view=permalink&id=2000725930250740

Here are some still images of the DSC ships in this game. The models in this game are really well done IMO. like 100 times better then Star Trek Timelines

https://imgur.com/a/C6DU7

They're not active yet, but thy're also going to add the Cardenas and Hoover class as a skins for the Crossfield, also the Walker and Nimitz.

"Constitution Class DSC" is listed as a Skin for the TOS Connie. this must be future proofing they forgot to remove

 

[Nate]

My own damnable collector's OCD demands it, unfortunately. However, when I finally get all the models set up on display, that and all other Disco Klingon ships will sit in the deepest, darkest unlit corner of my shelving unit.

I know what you mean, I have the same collector OCD. Must have them all... even if I don’t like the ship.

after some deliberation (stewing), i sent them an email asking them to cancel my subscription.

i was happy ordering and pre-ordering through the store, it was a more straightforward process, i'll do the same with discovery. i'm also fairly certain i don't want that janky bird-of-prey and was planning to cancel when the collection got to the klingon ships anyway. hell i might even receive my issues on time if i'm not a subscriber.

Probably a better path since you were going to cancel anyway & don’t want them all. You’d just miss out on whatever the subscriber gifts are but could probably easily pick those eBay at some point. Never had your payment issue even when my card expired. However, when I signed up for the Discovery collection it wouldn’t take my Mastercard even though that’s what my regular sub uses. Ended up having to use my Discover Card.

 

[Vger23]

Yeah... that Discovery "Klingon" ship.... does anyone seriously actually want that? Fair enough if so, but personally I wouldn't pay £3 for that, never mind £35 odd.

My own damnable collector's OCD demands it, unfortunately. However, when I finally get all the models set up on display, that and all other Disco Klingon ships will sit in the deepest, darkest unlit corner of my shelving unit.

I was going to cancel after getting the Discovery and the Shenzhou, but my wife looked at the Klingon designs tonight in the brochure and said "I WANT THOSE!" with a particular look in her eyes.

So...ummm....you don't argue with that folks. I do believe I'll be getting the Klingon ships.

 

[Nate]

I was going to cancel after getting the Discovery and the Shenzhou, but my wife looked at the Klingon designs tonight in the brochure and said "I WANT THOSE!" with a particular look in her eyes.

So...ummm....you don't argue with that folks. I do believe I'll be getting the Klingon ships.

Very true. To paraphrase one of my favorite lines from Ghostbusters.

When you’re wife tells you to buy Star Trek Ships. You say “yes” !

 

[Markonian]

I’m looking forward to get my hands on these Klingon ships. They look highly complex and I cannot imagine how they translate into models.

While they do break with the design lineage, they still function as “alien ship from horror Sci-Fi blockbuster”.

I hope that the mags answer one specific question for each Klingon ship: What’s front and what’s aft?

 

[ICW]

I was due Issues #18 and #19 but received Issues #110 and #113! I called their customer service this morning and I was told this was due to a "glitch" that happened with other subscribers and I should be back on track with the next shipment.

Has this happened to anyone else? Also, has anyone received a Titan magazine?

 

[Nate]

I was due Issues #18 and #19 but received Issues #110 and #113! I called their customer service this morning and I was told this was due to a "glitch" that happened with other subscribers and I should be back on track with the next shipment.

Has this happened to anyone else? Also, has anyone received a Titan magazine?

I’ve been a subscriber since the beginning in the US so I can’t be skipped too much ahead as I’m close to current with releases. They did skip 98/99 due to stock issues last summer & it took 6 months to get 99, they still haven’t sent 98.

I bought my Titan when it first went on sale & got the magazine within a month after that. (September/October timeframe)

 

[137th Gebirg]

I was going to cancel after getting the Discovery and the Shenzhou, but my wife looked at the Klingon designs tonight in the brochure and said "I WANT THOSE!" with a particular look in her eyes.

So...ummm....you don't argue with that folks. I do believe I'll be getting the Klingon ships.

Sad thing is, I really like the designs as generic alien-of-the-week ships. Lots of creativity and talent put into them. They just don't work for me as Klingon ships. I also find the new prosthetics to be equally mis-designed as Klingon. Not completely opposed to change in general, but change for change's sake is never a good thing, IMO.

 

[STR]

Yeah... that Discovery "Klingon" ship.... does anyone seriously actually want that? Fair enough if so, but personally I wouldn't pay £3 for that, never mind £35 odd.

I want it. I mean, every DSC Klink ship looks fugly and flawed on a deeply fundamental level, but I'm curious. They look deliberately disturbing and alien (if not Klingon). I want to see them in person, especially since we barely got to see them on screen (if we got 30 seconds of BoP action over the whole season I'd be surprised).

The Beyond looks nice though, can't really explain it but I hate the look of it in the 2009/13 movies, but doesn't look too shabby with the little 2016 modifications

Gotta disagree here too. The best JJprise are the ST09 concepts, followed by the ST09 version. That version is a disproportionate mess, but is at least cohesive with it's weird (and entirely too literal) take on a 50/60's muscle car. The more they revisited the design the less coherent and proportional it gets.

Though, I get why you and others like the STB version. The new pylons are more graceful, they just look like they belong on another ship (IMO).

 

[fireproof78]

From the Facebook group: videos showing the Klingon ships (DSC) in the Adversaries game.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1628123504177653?view=permalink&id=2000725930250740

Very epic and ancient. Really like the look.

 

[Rahul]

Sad thing is, I really like the designs as generic alien-of-the-week ships. Lots of creativity and talent put into them. They just don't work for me as Klingon ships. I also find the new prosthetics to be equally mis-designed as Klingon. Not completely opposed to change in general, but change for change's sake is never a good thing, IMO.

Yeah, that's the really infuriating part, isn't it?
Some of those designs are great. Especially the new "bird-of-prey", and the smaller, insect-like fighters. The same way the new "klingon" make-up is well done from a purely technical standpoint, and the "klingon" costumes (and the space-suit!) are a pure work of art!

In fact, if season 1 of DIS was about a war with these "new" aliens, it could have been fucking amazing, and they've been a new pillar of Trek lore instantly.

But they got fuck-all to do with klingons. It's missing the entire point of what klingons stood for, what history they represent and what made them unique. They could have told us those are the new Vulcans, and it would have been equally convincing.

It's a shame. It's production and concept art to behold. Only to be utterly ruined, by missing the entire point of what it represents and should have been. A mistake noone from the art department is the blame for. That's on the numbnuts higher up.

 

[Tuskin38]

But they got fuck-all to do with klingons. It's missing the entire point of what klingons stood for, what history they represent and what made them unique. They could have told us those are the new Vulcans, and it would have been equally convincing.

Eh I don't agree. the Klingons still acted like Klingons, going on about honour and battle, Kahless and all that jazz.

 

[Rahul]

Eh I don't agree. the Klingons still acted like Klingons, going on about honour and battle, Kahless and all that jazz.

... which is nothing more than window dressing.
I mean, sure, "Kahless" is an important entity of klingon existence. But just namedropping shit doesn't actually mean anything, if the core principles are violated.
Just because a country may be named "The democratic republic of...", it sure as shit ain't necessarily be a democracy (or a republic).
The klingons of DSC were essentially empty vessels - there is nothing of substance we have "learned" about them. There are no new insights, and everytime they referred to something familiar, it was just a stupid fanwank name-drop, but essentially ignoring the substance behind it.
The only actually "new" thing we learn about klingons on DIS is that their homeworld is completely volative to being blown up with a hand-sized bomb - a weakness I'm SURE no other species will have ever made use of against an aggressive, expansionist Empire/bunch of warring splinter cells. And even that is basically just trivia material - a plot point - rather than any real "insight" into klingon culture and behaviour.

 

[iliescu]

Magazines eh...should just be with Star Trek comics but whatever.

 

[F. King Daniel]

In fact, if season 1 of DIS was about a war with these "new" aliens, it could have been fucking amazing, and they've been a new pillar of Trek lore instantly.

I'm pretty sure everyone would have been fine with them being Klingons if they didn't keep insisting they're the same Klingons in the same continuity as the rest of the Trek TV franchise.

As rebooted Klingons in their unique version of Trek's world, they're great! No whining about hair or ship designs or continuity issues. And that's how I take them, CBS' BS notwithstanding.

 

[Rahul]

I'm pretty sure everyone would have been fine with them being Klingons if they didn't keep insisting they're the same Klingons in the same continuity as the rest of the Trek TV franchise.

As rebooted Klingons in their unique version of Trek's world, they're great! No whining about hair or ship designs or continuity issues. And that's how I take them, CBS' BS notwithstanding.

Indeed. But THEN you would have had a "reboot"- fan backlash, way before the first episode aired. Because having yet another reboot sure as hell wasn't what I wanted. And a lot of fans (me probably included) probably wouldn't have cared for it, nor even paid for it.

Thus, they tried to push a round pig into a square hole - e.g. try their best to convince the audiences that their reboot actually isn't a reboot, and most likely fiddling with everything up until the point it was likely too late - resulting in one big mess of a storyline - just to evade the "reboot"-label.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Make Klingons Great Again!

 

[pst]

speaking of those klingon devils, hero collector has more photos of the warbird/battlecruiser/whatever:

 

[STR]

The issue with the Kligons boil down to one thing: Fuller had a story about them in mind. He had a whole vision for them that included making them and their ships more alien than what we'd seen before. Then he quit. The new staff wanted little/nothing to do with Klingons, but already had a bunch of them in the pilot.

The result is a season which, despite ostensibly being about a war with Klingons, barely had any Klingons in it and those Klingons were barely given motivations.