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Captain Marvel (2019)

Well, when it comes to my own opinions I'm right most of the time. Obviously its just my opinion. We live in a world where some people like Batman v Superman and Spider-Man Homecoming, so its totally possibly some people might like a movie that seems to have been made by people with the same level of competence as the people behind Catwoman or Elektra. Actually, thats unfair to Elektra. Her movie may have sucked, but she was decent in the Daredevil Director's Cut. I don't think that the MCU's Captain Marvel will be showing up in a good movie before starring in her own pile of crap. In that respect, Spider-Man is actually the MCUs Elektra now that I think about it, which is weird.
Once again, kirk, no one is disputing your right to have your own opinion no matter how much we disagree with it. My issue (and I'm sure others agree with me) is your continuous decision to harshly judge films before even seeing them, or in this case, before it's even finished. There's a word for that: Prejudice.
 
Though to be fair that's someone who'd you expect to be in the know.
Of course, I'm not disputing what she said, I just don't understand lavaflav's reaction.
Again, I'm talking Thor slapstick and full on GOTG humor. Not a joke here and there Cap, IM or Spidey humor. There is too much potential for Captain Marvel to be relegated to a comedy with no replay value. With Cap, Iron Man, and potentially Thor going the way of the dodo after IW, Captain Marvel is the perfect character to take up the mantle of top dog in the MCU. If you want The Greatest American Hero, watch Youtube vids.
I still don't see why the movie being funny means Captain Marvel can't be the MCU's top dog.
I think the big thing here is exactly what kind of humor we're talking here, and the impression I got from the comment, was just that the character will be sarcastic, and I just don't see that as a problem. There a plenty of movies with a jokey sarcastic hero that still take their situations and the character seriously.
 
I thought it was odd that the writer was going to make Tomb Raider an action comedy as well as that seems an odd direction to go with that property. It makes me cautious that the writer might be trying to force it to be a comedy when it may not be the best approach.
 
I remember that even after the casting of Michael Keaton and after the studio was trying to reassure fans that it would be serious, someone linked to the film described it as “an action comedy.” It doesn’t do to get too worked up about quotes like that at this stage.
 
I still don't get why you disliked Homecoming.

The story was bad, it was all the shit teen cliches that make me hate 90% of teen superheroes. Also, all the supporting characters were terrible (Aunt May and whoever Zendaya was supposed to be were the worst), and the whole "You didn't follow what I said, so I'm tasking your toys away) plot point made me hate Tony stark more then him being an asshole in Civil War. Also, fuck happy Hogan and I wish Favreau would just stop showing up, he's just completely wasted and they're making Happy into a complete moron. Vulture was also an idiot, I wish they'd used the real one with his motivations (elderly inventor gets inventions stolen and/or ignored), it would have made more sense and been less irritaiting.

I can barely even stand Peter after it. He was just the same damn teen character that is in every teen movie. He has to worry about being grounded, he embarrasses himself at a party, etc, etc. There is a reason that the only teen heroes I really like are the Teen Titans, because none of them had to worry school or parents who they had to hide their costumed lives from. Homecoming was all the stuff I hate, done almost as badly as possible. The only good thing is that Tom Holland is a mcuh better actor then Andrew Garfield, so its not quite the worst SM movie.
 
After exposure to an alien device that altered her DNA, Air Force lieutenant colonel Carol Danvers gained super strength, flight and invulnerability. Like, calm Hulk level strength.
 
The Marvel Wiki lists a bunch of other powers including super speed, stamina, agility, reflexes, precognition/cosmic awareness, immunity to poisons/toxins, photonic blasts, and energy absorption.
 
If you ever saw any of the 90s xmen cartoon or comics and wondered why Anna Paquin's Rogue has almost none of those powers like flying, super strength, etc... It's because Rogue in the comics permanently absorbed those powers from Ms. Marvel/Carol Danvers.
 
The story was bad, it was all the shit teen cliches that make me hate 90% of teen superheroes.

Like what? Peter not being some flat, pristine do-gooder?

Also, all the supporting characters were terrible (Aunt May and whoever Zendaya was supposed to be were the worst),

How? I liked May more here than in Raimi's movies or ASM. Zendaya was hardly in the film and was way more tolerable than Raimi's MJ.

and the whole "You didn't follow what I said, so I'm tasking your toys away) plot point made me hate Tony stark more then him being an asshole in Civil War.

Hey, you take away toys from someone who breaks the rules. That's the point of punishment.

Vulture was also an idiot, I wish they'd used the real one with his motivations (elderly inventor gets inventions stolen and/or ignored), it would have made more sense and been less irritaiting.

Nah, comics Vulture's been flat for years. This reinvention was a welcome one.

I can barely even stand Peter after it. He was just the same damn teen character that is in every teen movie. He has to worry about being grounded, he embarrasses himself at a party, etc, etc.

That was the whole point to his character in the first place, instead of how the earlier Spidey movies wasted the Teen years. This isn't DC with their "perfect person" archetypes.

There is a reason that the only teen heroes I really like are the Teen Titans, because none of them had to worry school or parents who they had to hide their costumed lives from.

Beh, that's exactly why I DIDN'T like the Teen Titans.
 
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The story was bad, it was all the shit teen cliches that make me hate 90% of teen superheroes. Also, all the supporting characters were terrible (Aunt May and whoever Zendaya was supposed to be were the worst), and the whole "You didn't follow what I said, so I'm tasking your toys away) plot point made me hate Tony stark more then him being an asshole in Civil War. Also, fuck happy Hogan and I wish Favreau would just stop showing up, he's just completely wasted and they're making Happy into a complete moron. Vulture was also an idiot, I wish they'd used the real one with his motivations (elderly inventor gets inventions stolen and/or ignored), it would have made more sense and been less irritaiting.

I can barely even stand Peter after it. He was just the same damn teen character that is in every teen movie. He has to worry about being grounded, he embarrasses himself at a party, etc, etc. There is a reason that the only teen heroes I really like are the Teen Titans, because none of them had to worry school or parents who they had to hide their costumed lives from. Homecoming was all the stuff I hate, done almost as badly as possible. The only good thing is that Tom Holland is a mcuh better actor then Andrew Garfield, so its not quite the worst SM movie.

To you these comics and movies are basicly as important as breathing, aren't they?
 
I for one hope that one day their will be a Marvel film that is considered a dark comedy, akin maybe to the League of Gentlemen.

Of course, being a franchise that is "aimed" at multiple demographics, I have no issues with the broad humour that appears in many of the films, almost from the very beginning of Iron Man.

As for Captain Marvel, I don't know much about her, but going by all the previous MCU films and the fact I like Brie Larson, I am looking forward to this.
 
The Kelly Sue DeConnick run of Captain Marvel had a very quirky sense of humor it would make sense for this movie to emulate. For those complaining about humor in this movie, I'm curious which runs of the character they've actually read.
 
Like what? Peter not being some flat, pristine do-gooder?

Peter has always been a fairly pristine do-gooder. The one time he wasn't, his uncle died. his personal problems come from being too much of a hero, which effects his job, relationships, etc.

How? I liked May more here than in Raimi's movies or ASM. Zendaya was hardly in the film and was way more tolerable than Raimi's MJ.

May in Raimi's movies was great. In Homecoming she isn't May, she's some hip woman who shares nothing with any version of May, even Bendis's shit Ultimate May. I'm all for making May a bit less frail, and I'm fine if she's a bit younger, but the May in HC is just shit. Partially its a bad choice for actress, but the writing is the big issue.

Hey, you take away toys from someone who breaks the rules. That's the point of punishment.

Or maybe your shitty limo driver answers his fucking phone and tells the hero that they're doing something about the obvious major problem the person found. Tony and Happy are responsiblew for that Ferry problem, Peter did what he should have done, tried to stop bad guys that the big heroes seemed to be ignoring. It would have taken less then a minute to call Peter, tell them they got his warnings and that the authorities were on the case. But, they didn't. Presumably just because Happy doesn't like Peter and didn't want to talk to him.

That was the whole point to his character in the first place, instead of how the earlier Spidey movies wasted the Teen years. This isn't DC with their "perfect person" archetypes.

nope, it isn't. Peter was a teenager for around 28 issues in the fucking 60s. He graduated when my mother was in Kindergarten, and that was that. Until that pile of shit "Ultimate Spider-Man" came out, I'm pretty sure no one had really thought of Peter as a teenager for decades.

Beh, that's exactly why I DIDN'T like the Teen Titans.

Good for you. A very, very large group of Titans fans don't agree.

The Kelly Sue DeConnick run of Captain Marvel had a very quirky sense of humor it would make sense for this movie to emulate. For those complaining about humor in this movie, I'm curious which runs of the character they've actually read.

I've read every Carol Danvers run except for her very first solo title. Her second Ms. marvel book was the best, and most of her 2-3 Captain Marvel titled books have been generally mediocre. Some good ideas (like running the new version of SWORD), but a lot of bad (the amnesia from a brain tumor subplot that got ignored almost immediately, Carol becoming a fascist psychopath in Civil War II, etc). Really, they should just ignore individual runs and kind of just cherry pick good stuff, if they cared about making a good Carol danvers movie, which they don't.
 
Peter has always been a fairly pristine do-gooder. The one time he wasn't, his uncle died. his personal problems come from being too much of a hero, which effects his job, relationships, etc.

He still struggled with normal human problems. That's what made him stand out.

In Homecoming she isn't May

If you mean she isn't some borderline senile walking cadaver like she often is in the comics, I'm fine with that.

Or maybe your shitty limo driver answers his fucking phone and tells the hero that they're doing something about the obvious major problem the person found. Tony and Happy are responsiblew for that Ferry problem, Peter did what he should have done, tried to stop bad guys that the big heroes seemed to be ignoring. It would have taken less then a minute to call Peter, tell them they got his warnings and that the authorities were on the case. But, they didn't. Presumably just because Happy doesn't like Peter and didn't want to talk to him.

So internal conflict and people not all being perfect. Sounds like Marvel.

Peter was a teenager for around 28 issues in the fucking 60s

Still happened, and is more worth exploring than bland generic adult hero #987.

Good for you. A very, very large group of Titans fans don't agree.

Eh, DC's never been much of a "flawed hero" Universe anyways.
 
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