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USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

and it doesn’t
Exactly. They didn't try. It should have at least a similar color palette, similar uniforms..(like the cage but slightly updated like the Kelvin movies did with TOS Uniforms) more texture with interiors etc. But we got a completely different aesthetic, completely different klingons etc ...sorry there is no way this show can even be argued to have happened after or during the cage and before TOS....just doesn't fit.....all the other shows did a better job. Even the Kelvin Movies...lol....
 
I added to my last post. No one says it has to look exactly. But everything on DSC is a complete departure. There is no other way to put it. They are not respecting what came before. Again... visually DISCOVERY has failed imo.

You know, as always, none of my criticisms of this junk are based in whether or how much designs or continuity have changed. I embrace that kind of thing as necessary, creative and interesting, which is why the JJTrek movies have never given me any heartburn.
 
You know, as always, none of my criticisms of this junk are based in whether or how much designs or continuity have changed. I embrace that kind of thing as necessary, creative and interesting, which is why the JJTrek movies have never given me any heartburn.

I'm not a big fan of the Kelvin movies. It wasn't really the look but the stories that aren't all that great. At least they have the excuse of the Alternate timeline thing as thin as it may be.
 
This is getting into the debate that's been raging here for quite a bit.
Discovery absolutely dropped the ball with the aesthetic. People who say "it's the 60s its outdated" don't really know what they are talking about honestly. As I've explained before, mid 20th century design is actually considered very sleek and modern even till this day. You know that little franchise Ikea? The core of it's design philosophy and style was laid down in the 1920s.
You can do 60s and still make it look sleek and cool I've posted numerous images on this board of great 60s sci-fi design that still holds up wonderfully till this day. (avatar included)
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How is something like this not just way cooler and sleek than the awful uniforms we get in Discovery? It's the style of the era that TOS was based on (Post-War Sci-Fi) but updated to modern standards.
Hell Gucci's 2017 collection, guess what it was inspired by, let me see if you can tell?
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The thing is also, Star Trek takes place in the future. Fashion and trends are cyclical, there is no reason for characters to not have a more 60s look to them, frankly it actually makes the setting look more alien and futuristic simply because it doesn't look just like now in space ships which Discovery honestly suffers heavily from (both in the writing and the aesthetic).

I just honestly do not get why you would set a show during the Cage era and not use the TOS aesthetic. It will always be mindboggling to me. Why not set Discovery then 50 years before closer to ENT or 50 years post Voyager?
 
You know, as always, none of my criticisms of this junk are based in whether or how much designs or continuity have changed. I embrace that kind of thing as necessary, creative and interesting, which is why the JJTrek movies have never given me any heartburn.

I don't mind the Abrams redesigns because they were honest about the movies being their own thing, separate for the most part from the universe of TOS. Discovery is supposed to be in the same universe (a few years before) and nothing about the look or the story has sold me on that premise.
 
After letting it sink in for a few hours, honestly, I'm not in love with the redesign. It's not bad at all, but I feel like they kept it too retro, and it doesn't really fit in with the rest of the Federation fleet. The neck and deflector dish are the parts that annoy me most. Oh well, it is what it is. I honestly like the Kelvinverse 1701-A alot better.
 
I just honestly do not get why you would set a show during the Cage era and not use the TOS aesthetic. It will always be mindboggling to me. Why not set Discovery then 50 years before closer to ENT or 50 years post Voyager?
Because in ten years things change. Why not try something different? Now, I agree that perhaps a different era might have been a better choice, but that doesn't automatically mean that Pike's Enterprise is what every single Starfleet tech looked like.

Sorry, ten years is a long time in Treknoverse, as evidenced by TOS to TMP.
 
Why is that thin?
Because it was used just so they could make a new TOS movie. I would rather them have just did a complete reboot. Also putting Nimoy next to Quinto and a picture of the original cast in the last film takes you out of suspension of disbelief and reminds you that none of the actors even resemble the original cast.
 
Because it was used just so they could make a new TOS movie. I would rather them have just did a complete reboot. Also putting Nimoy next to Quinto and a picture of the original cast in the last film takes you out of suspension of disbelief and reminds you that none of the actors even resemble the original cast.
It didn't for me. :shrug:
 
Exactly. They didn't try. It should have at least a similar color palette, similar uniforms..(like the cage but slightly updated like the Kelvin movies did with TOS Uniforms) more texture with interiors etc. But we got a completely different aesthetic, completely different klingons etc ...sorry there is no way this show can even be argued to have happened after or during the cage and before TOS....just doesn't fit.....all the other shows did a better job. Even the Kelvin Movies...lol....

Lore, story wise, it happens in Prime Universe, the visuals are just the coat of paint.
 
I mean cheap for today.

It isn't cheap today, many content providers that pay for it will tell you that. I am holding in my hand the Eaglemoss 1701. If everything looked so cheap, why do these things still sell fifty years after they were on TV?
 
No, it really doesn't. Klingons that can barely speak Klingon much less English, cloaking devices being widespread... those are just bits on why it isn't part of the Prime universe.

The cloaking device has already been explained.
 
Nostalgia.

Is nostalgia the reason TOS novels are the best sellers? Is nostalgia the reason the first two reboot movies did so well? Is nostalgia the reason why Discovery is trying to be crammed into the TOS timeframe?

They caught lightening in a bottle with TOS, which is why everyone wants to tie their projects to it.
 
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