As long as that advice is comign from the brig.
Spoilers How will this season end?
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As long as that advice is comign from the brig.
I'm still not sure of the end of the season, but I do have one prediction:
The Klingon war will be resolved without ever meeting a new Klingon antagonist, or seeing any new "named Klingon" onscreen.
This show is ridiculously stingy with guest characters. No named guest characters with more than a few lines of dialogue have been introduced to the show since the sixth episode. We just keep getting the same people coming back again and again and again.
Kol is dead. The only other named Klingons are both prisoners onboard the Discovery. Therefore either the Klingons will be a largely faceless threat (dealt with through CGI ship combat) or the endgame will (somehow, inexplicably) involve L'Rell and Voq.
Maybe we'll see that female Klingon with the weird jeweled veil again? That's about all I expect. Recurring characters do everything on Discovery.
The Klingon war will be resolved without ever meeting a new Klingon antagonist, or seeing any new "named Klingon" onscreen.
This show is ridiculously stingy with guest characters. No named guest characters with more than a few lines of dialogue have been introduced to the show since the sixth episode. We just keep getting the same people coming back again and again and again.
Kol is dead. The only other named Klingons are both prisoners onboard the Discovery. Therefore either the Klingons will be a largely faceless threat (dealt with through CGI ship combat) or the endgame will (somehow, inexplicably) involve L'Rell and Voq.
Maybe we'll see that female Klingon with the weird jeweled veil again? That's about all I expect. Recurring characters do everything on Discovery.
Or maybe the new head klingon is from a different house that has hair.
Speaking of which, wasn't there supposed to be a whole backstory about why they have shaved heads? It uncovers ancient, hunting, sensory glands in their heads or something. Will that ever come up on screen!? Burnham was hiding on their bridge and none of the Klingons even noticed her...
http://www.slashfilm.com/star-trek-discovery-season-2-tca-2018/
So something is going to happen in the next 2 episodes to wrap this up, I don't think it's going to be a cliffhanger, or if it is it won't be related to the current plot.
So something is going to happen in the next 2 episodes to wrap this up, I don't think it's going to be a cliffhanger, or if it is it won't be related to the current plot.
Keep in mind that was written before Act 2 even began broadcasting. That said, those comments don't seem to have much to do with the MU arc.
In general, the comments make it seem like maybe Fuller was the one who wanted everything grimdark, and the showrunners basically felt like they needed to spend the season trying to dig the season out of the pit Fuller put it in narratively.
Imprison her for what? She's done nothing wrong in the PU. Do crimes carry over from dimension to dimension?
According to another interview, the Mirror Universe was Fuller's idea, but his version had it earlier in the season, the current team pushed it back. If they had that much power they could have scrapped the grimdark all together if they wanted.
That's my point. It's not for Federation to judge how other Universes live. This would be part of Multi-Universe Prime Directive, is such a thing existed. Now, part of that would also be not taking anyone from any universe against their will (what Burnham did, and what she would be punished for if such laws existed) but assuming there is no easy way to get MU Georgiou back into her universe, she is stuck in PU. And there is nothing that Federation can put her in the brig for. So she is as of right now (legally) a clean slate. Now don't go about giving her a ship just yet, not until she proves herself.
It will end with Discovery in another parallel universe, not knowing where they are and USS Enterprise will appear and captain Pike will ask them something like "Unknown vessel, identify yourself!". Oh and Michael could become Uhura in one of those parallel universes. Same parents (not dead), and just give her different name. And Discovery crew will be mixed from boarding party (Humans, Sarek, Androians, Telarrites...) and people that are now on Discovery.
FFS Cool your jets, pal. I'm speculating that she may be imprisoned for something, clearly i don't know what exactly. Maybe Georgiou will do something criminal in the PU that warrants her imprisonment.
Lock her up as a prisoner of war or enemy combatant. There is a war going on. You cannot allow her to walk around free.
A war in which she is not the enemy or a combatant. She is an exiled head of state from a neutral foreign power. My guess is they will give her diplomatic status
She is not a head of state anymore and she is a danger to the federation to be allowed to be free. At some point what is best for the federation has to matter and having a genocidal maniac wandering around kinda qualifies.
Just for fun: Tilly adopts Lorca's now orphaned tribble. The hungry little furball starts munching on the spore colony growing on her uniform and begins breeding like crazy. They realize tribbles react to the mycellium spores with an exploding breeding rate so they start simply beaming dozens of tribbles and opened spore canisters aboard Klingon ships (or maybe even a starbase's silos). The infestation spreads and entire Klingon military gets occupied by a seemingly ineradicable tribble invasion, leading to a complete collapse of the war effort and an economic crisis.
For heaven’s sake. Stop trying to fanwank in current predicted realities.
(1) The showrunners/writers are flying by the seat of their pants
(2) They stupidly under-estimated the popularity of Lorca
(3) They need to re-establish Burnham as the POV character if the show, as originally envisaged, is to be salvaged.
Lorca’s dead. Deal with it. PU Lorca might return for a guest appearance but don’t count on it being some sort of solution for the show’s writing problems. He’d be a one to two episode “save us from cancellation” solution at best.
Burnham needs good stories – fast.
The rest of the Discovery Bridge crew also need a continuation of the development that began only recently, to make them an ensemble.
Forget the fanwank about Georgiou, versions of Lorca etc. Not relevant to the main story and won’t happen due to the fame of the two actors (as judged not by us nobodies, but by casting people in Hollywood).
The show must either (1) use time travel to reset things – which would piss off both fans and general public - or (2) utilise Emperor Georgiou’s knowledge from the Defiant to help Starfleet win the war (which also ends up in her dying and MU info becoming classified so Kirk et al know nothing).
So assuming they have a story-line that utilises “emperor” Georgiou, possibly the appearance of a couple of Connies (Enterprise and Farragut, but only external shots would be my prediction to avoid casting issues) etc to finish the war, sets up the neutral zone, then we are down to how S2 plays out. I’ve seen links to a “religion vs science” issue – UGH, PLEASE DON’T GO THERE. We all know what happened in nuBSG when they did that – everyone thought “advanced science” would explain the anomalies and when it didn’t we all went mad. Religion vs science is like Christmas Dinner with extended family and discussing politics – nobody wins and everyone has horrid day. Just don’t do it.
FWIW I think an interesting “take” on trek is that provided in Diane Duane’s non-Canon 1988 novel “The Final Frontier” (not to be confused with the movie of the same name). It discusses in an intelligent way how much of the early Federation distrusts “human” Starfleet, being unsure what “the humans might do” and thus only 12 (14?) Connies being commissioned, with Robert April stressing their role as exploratory whilst a decidedly more antagonistic George Kirk describing them as “warships” to kick the shit out of Klingons/Romulans/etc if they threaten the Federation. Needless to say there is a compromise – one which sets the scene for our own James T Kirk, in which the Connie is part-science-part-military vessel. A Federation “heavy loss” in which many of the non-Connies are lost would fit nicely with TOS.....after all, a non-Connie shouldn’t engage a Klingon cruiser but a Connie wipes the floor with them – but Connies are not common and can’t be everywhere......unless there’s an “emperor phil” plan.....
(1) The showrunners/writers are flying by the seat of their pants
(2) They stupidly under-estimated the popularity of Lorca
(3) They need to re-establish Burnham as the POV character if the show, as originally envisaged, is to be salvaged.
Lorca’s dead. Deal with it. PU Lorca might return for a guest appearance but don’t count on it being some sort of solution for the show’s writing problems. He’d be a one to two episode “save us from cancellation” solution at best.
Burnham needs good stories – fast.
The rest of the Discovery Bridge crew also need a continuation of the development that began only recently, to make them an ensemble.
Forget the fanwank about Georgiou, versions of Lorca etc. Not relevant to the main story and won’t happen due to the fame of the two actors (as judged not by us nobodies, but by casting people in Hollywood).
The show must either (1) use time travel to reset things – which would piss off both fans and general public - or (2) utilise Emperor Georgiou’s knowledge from the Defiant to help Starfleet win the war (which also ends up in her dying and MU info becoming classified so Kirk et al know nothing).
So assuming they have a story-line that utilises “emperor” Georgiou, possibly the appearance of a couple of Connies (Enterprise and Farragut, but only external shots would be my prediction to avoid casting issues) etc to finish the war, sets up the neutral zone, then we are down to how S2 plays out. I’ve seen links to a “religion vs science” issue – UGH, PLEASE DON’T GO THERE. We all know what happened in nuBSG when they did that – everyone thought “advanced science” would explain the anomalies and when it didn’t we all went mad. Religion vs science is like Christmas Dinner with extended family and discussing politics – nobody wins and everyone has horrid day. Just don’t do it.
FWIW I think an interesting “take” on trek is that provided in Diane Duane’s non-Canon 1988 novel “The Final Frontier” (not to be confused with the movie of the same name). It discusses in an intelligent way how much of the early Federation distrusts “human” Starfleet, being unsure what “the humans might do” and thus only 12 (14?) Connies being commissioned, with Robert April stressing their role as exploratory whilst a decidedly more antagonistic George Kirk describing them as “warships” to kick the shit out of Klingons/Romulans/etc if they threaten the Federation. Needless to say there is a compromise – one which sets the scene for our own James T Kirk, in which the Connie is part-science-part-military vessel. A Federation “heavy loss” in which many of the non-Connies are lost would fit nicely with TOS.....after all, a non-Connie shouldn’t engage a Klingon cruiser but a Connie wipes the floor with them – but Connies are not common and can’t be everywhere......unless there’s an “emperor phil” plan.....
But if the Emperor's intentions to invade the PU is made known, Admiral Cornwell would've immediately arrest her and thrown her into the Federation's equivalent of Guantanamo, never to be seen or heard again....
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