Little things in Trek that just bug you...
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Some of this though I think is more early seasons Picard, back when Roddenberry still had a good amount of control over the show. In fact I don't recall the money thing coming up to much once season 3 comes around and even then I don't think it was to drastic. Stuff like Riker not having money to tip the 4 armed Piano player in "Unification." I think the only time I sort of felt annoyed was the over-top idea that some lone guy who thinks he saw God or "The Picard" in that season 3 ep with the proto-Vulcans would be enough to create Holly Wars seemed like a stretch. In fact I think my biggest issue with human religion in Trek was that they went with the idea that it will simply disapear instead of simply evolve like everything else. People still might be into religion but all the Fed Phelps and misguided racism that people sometimes get out of it is the stuff that disapeared. People have found away to still have faith without it also being something to use to hurt other people.
Jason
Or Ro having to explain to Picard that when you pretend to hire a hooker, you also have to pay her.
Somehow I doubt Picard would have been able to handle DS9, with all those imperfect people on the station.
I honestly don't care which seasons you reference. Picard was a pompous, nose-in-the-air elitist in all of them, and carried that on into the movies.
I'm not quite sure what you're saying, since some of it is unclear.
Religion didn't disappear even in TOS. Both McCoy and Uhura were obviously Christian. The Enterprise had a space that was sometimes used as a chapel. Kirk told Apollo that "we find the one (god) sufficient."
Having to not just spoiler-code somebody's Discovery spoiler, but also having to spoiler-code it again because somebody quoted it.
I don't blame the creators for doin' this -- as cash doesn't grow on trees.
But the idea that you stick a piece of plastic on a human's forehead and viola it's a totally alien species......well, this does get met with a bit of eye rollin' from me, that's all I can say.
But the idea that you stick a piece of plastic on a human's forehead and viola it's a totally alien species......well, this does get met with a bit of eye rollin' from me, that's all I can say.
That seems reasonable. Obviously lower kill settings are enough to kill but leave a corpse, while the higher ones vaporize.
Well, it sure seems a pretty decent walk from Georgiou's desk to the conference table. Also, the fact there is a conference table in the ready room speaks volumes about its size. At the very least it's definitely larger than I would have expected given how old the Shenzhou is supposed to be, and indeed larger than Lorca's ready room is.
Contrary to popular belief, human religion has not disappeared in Trek. Hindu holidays are observed on board the Enterprise D, and in DS9 Kasidy Yates indicated her mother to be a practicing Christian.
Ass-pull technobabble solutions. Mostly seen in Voyager. Paraphrasing from "The Swarm"
"Phasers don't work on them!"
"[meaningless babytalk]"
"Yes! The phasers work now!"
*cut to credits*
"Phasers don't work on them!"
"[meaningless babytalk]"
"Yes! The phasers work now!"
*cut to credits*
Not only that, alien technology is jawdroppingly compatible with 24th century Starfleet technology. Find an unknown alien item on a never-before-visited planet? A hitherto unknown Borg component? An item from the 29th century? Chances are 90% that a tricorder and/or other computers/tech on board can interface with it directly, and in the other 10% of the cases, the chief engineer will find a way within a few hours. It only becomes a serious problem when the plot requires it.
Vic who?
Star Trek: Nemesis being the finale of Star Trek. I'm not knocking the movie, only the apparent idea by TPTB that Trek can't go any further into the future with a new series or movie. Hogwash.
"Little Things in Trek that Just Bug You". Hmmm.
"Power Play":
"The Next Phase::
"Schisms":
"Starship MIne":
"Gambit Part 1":
"Attached":
"The Pegasus":
"Emergence":
First Contact:
Insurrection:
These are some of the "little things" in Star Trek that bug me.
"Power Play":
"The Next Phase::
"Schisms":
"Starship MIne":
"Gambit Part 1":
"Attached":
"The Pegasus":
"Emergence":
First Contact:
Insurrection:
These are some of the "little things" in Star Trek that bug me.
Of course you got this counter non-technobabble line that is just as bad.
Geordi: We got a Bogey at 12 o'clock or however he said it.
Jason
Well, Trek is supposed to be a positive future...
This x1000. I hated hearing pretentious speeches about how much better the TNG crew was than all those poor dumb ignorant 20th century humans who made up the entirety of their viewing audience.
Another thing that TNG constantly did that annoyed me: An emergency where the ship is mere minutes away from blowing up and the crew is seen walking briskly to the source of the problem. Hey, guys...? The ship's blowing up any second now. Maybe running is warranted?
- Alien "civilizations" all being just a few adobe buildings without even windows. A town square thats the size of a backyard with 2 carts selling fabrics or fruit. Oh and they use fire torches for light. Space faring civilization. Even when we see Romulus, it's a few adobe buildings, dirt and fire torches.
- The god awful "fashion" of the Federation humans. Everyone wearing bus seat material clothes, terrible spandex leotards and stuff being shiny or metalic/sequenced looking because it's the FUTURE.
- Aliens all wearing brown and beige, earth tones people!
- Everything about the redesign of the Romulans in TNG onwards. They go from honourable, fashionable, seductive in TOS to like psychopathic Machiavellian schemers in TNG, DS9, ENT. Also why do they wear that utilitarian Vulcan haircut if they don't follow utilitarianism and logical positivism like Vulcans? Also if Romulans are supposed to be so artistic and love gardens and art so much with Romulus being the galaxies most beautiful "Garden planet", why do they all just wear grey and look the same, and why is Romulus so crappy when we actually see it?
- Lack of security cameras on the starships and space stations.
- When you approach a planet, the leader of the planet literally just talks to you for no reason. He also represents the whole planet but you must give him time to address "The council".
- In general lack of scale of everything. Starfleet being something like 50 ships in TNG and a few thousand in DS9 when the Federation likely has a population in the trillions according to numbers given in DS9. Yorktown is one of the few times I think Star Trek gets scale of the Federation right (too bad everything else about scale in those films is wrong)
This is actually one of my favourite things about Star Trek. It's a post-capitalist socialist society. I hate the idea that in 300 years, we will still be living in Capitalism which makes no sense as even these days people are wondering if modern Capitalism will even survive mass automation and AI in the coming century which it basically can't (unless mass genocide happens against the worlds poor and working people).
Also it's very easy to explain the money thing. Federation doesn't have money but it does have currency. Money = / = Currency as Money is capital where currency is simply a token to facilitate exchange. Federation Credits are Socialist personal credits. It's currency, but it's not capital like money is.
"The means of production are no longer the private property of individuals. The means of production belong to the whole of society. Every member of society, performing a certain part of the socially-necessary work, receives a certificate from society to the effect that he has done a certain amount of work. And with this certificate he receives from the public store of consumer goods a corresponding quantity of products. After a deduction is made of the amount of labor which goes to the public fund, every worker, therefore, receives from society as much as he has given to it."
- The god awful "fashion" of the Federation humans. Everyone wearing bus seat material clothes, terrible spandex leotards and stuff being shiny or metalic/sequenced looking because it's the FUTURE.
- Aliens all wearing brown and beige, earth tones people!
- Everything about the redesign of the Romulans in TNG onwards. They go from honourable, fashionable, seductive in TOS to like psychopathic Machiavellian schemers in TNG, DS9, ENT. Also why do they wear that utilitarian Vulcan haircut if they don't follow utilitarianism and logical positivism like Vulcans? Also if Romulans are supposed to be so artistic and love gardens and art so much with Romulus being the galaxies most beautiful "Garden planet", why do they all just wear grey and look the same, and why is Romulus so crappy when we actually see it?
- Lack of security cameras on the starships and space stations.
- When you approach a planet, the leader of the planet literally just talks to you for no reason. He also represents the whole planet but you must give him time to address "The council".
- In general lack of scale of everything. Starfleet being something like 50 ships in TNG and a few thousand in DS9 when the Federation likely has a population in the trillions according to numbers given in DS9. Yorktown is one of the few times I think Star Trek gets scale of the Federation right (too bad everything else about scale in those films is wrong)
This is actually one of my favourite things about Star Trek. It's a post-capitalist socialist society. I hate the idea that in 300 years, we will still be living in Capitalism which makes no sense as even these days people are wondering if modern Capitalism will even survive mass automation and AI in the coming century which it basically can't (unless mass genocide happens against the worlds poor and working people).
Also it's very easy to explain the money thing. Federation doesn't have money but it does have currency. Money = / = Currency as Money is capital where currency is simply a token to facilitate exchange. Federation Credits are Socialist personal credits. It's currency, but it's not capital like money is.
"The means of production are no longer the private property of individuals. The means of production belong to the whole of society. Every member of society, performing a certain part of the socially-necessary work, receives a certificate from society to the effect that he has done a certain amount of work. And with this certificate he receives from the public store of consumer goods a corresponding quantity of products. After a deduction is made of the amount of labor which goes to the public fund, every worker, therefore, receives from society as much as he has given to it."
