Yes. That's the whole damn point of the Mirror Universe.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x12 - "Vaulting Ambition"
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Yes. That's the whole damn point of the Mirror Universe.
You're a fan of Section 31 aren't you?
Agreed. Hard Men Making Hard Choices is NOT what Trek has ever been about. Sure, I get it, Sisko in "In the Pale Moonlight" but even there, he's not portrayed in the positive.
"Starfleet does not fire first." - Captain Philippa Georgiou
"I'm not who you think I am.Before I was a mutineer, I was a first officer in Starfleet.I'll never bear that rank or any other again.
But it is who I am, and who I will always be. It is by the principles of the United Federation of Planets that I live. And by them I will most certainly die." - Michael Burnham
"We are stranded in a cruel, anarchic world, but we are still Starfleet. And we still live and die by Federation law. No matter how heinous your crimes." - Commander Saru
That's what Trek is about and what it has always been about. It loses that and that's when it stops being Trek.
Except that's not actually how it works.
Mirror Saru isn't evil.
That kind of dissociation is actually pretty natural. Only when it extends for inordinate lengths of time does it cross into pathological.
God, when I lost my first girlfriend to a drunk driver, many, many moons ago, I just shut down. I went completely and utterly numb. I pressed on, did what I had to do, but I was terrified of a public display of grief. I saved that for behind closed doors.
On the other hand, I had a subordinate once who did come apart and broke down completely. I had the unenviable position of having to escort her to Mental Health for acute treatment. She never really recovered and was medically discharged.
Point being, as you said, trauma is subjective and contextual, with most of us not knowing how we're going to deal with it until it actually happens. I suspect, if the writers are keen to continuing a realistic look at how someone deals with grief, we'll see more the repercussions later (presuming Culber isn't, somehow, resurrected or whatnot).
He just hasn't had the opportunity. Given the chance he would grind the humans beneath his boots. And you've seen his boots!
It is thematically kinda the point, but it is still really not the case. It is just a horrible alternative timeline where an evil empire dominates. It doesn't mean that some individuals can't be decent (such as Spock.)
If Saru eats a human who is still digesting a Kelpian... Is that Cannibalism??
I was seventeen at the time and, in spite of the fact I have a thing for redheads, that scene did sweet bugger all for me! Zippo! Nada!
EDIT: It was 1989? Heck, then I was nineteen, then. Still did nothing for me. TNG was just...awkward at times.
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I still swear by the triangle and single line, even though I didn't make it up. Occurred to me--meta-game thinking, here--that, perhaps, Lorca's origin was different under Fuller's direction and, perhaps, they came up with something else along the way. It simply doesn't look like the kind of wound that would be caused by the kind of weapon utilised.
Then again, denial ain't just a river in Egypt, either, so...
I don't know. If we get eaten by a shark after we have a meal of sharkfin soup (or whatever), is the shark a cannibal?
and how do we know this? we only saw him for a few minutes.
That's only because it's Michelle Yeoh
You aint wrong.
Noting but respect for my Wuxia Space Emperor.
People ought to disabuse themselves of the notion that what we are seeing with regards to Discovery's narrative is something that Aaron Harberts and Gretchen J. Berg came up with after Bryan Fuller left the project, because it's not.
They also ought to disabuse themselves of buying into the "everybody in the Mirror Universe is eeeeeeevilll" trope because, as I noted, that's not how it works and has never been how it works.
They also ought to disabuse themselves of buying into the "everybody in the Mirror Universe is eeeeeeevilll" trope because, as I noted, that's not how it works and has never been how it works.
Actually, the Praetorian Guards were a breeding ground for later emperors (heck, they even had a term for it: barracks emperors), so...MU Lorca might still want the throne for himself.
I didn't mean to imply it's impossible for him to seize the throne without Burnham. But it undoubtedly would be easier if he was the consort of the heir apparent to the emperor.
