Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x12 - "Vaulting Ambition"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Jan 21, 2018.


Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Great!

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  10. 1 - Not great.

  1. Grendelsbayne

    Grendelsbayne Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Sep 24, 2013
    That last one was Nova Squadron, not Red Squad.
  2. indranee

    indranee Vice Admiral Admiral

    Nov 20, 2003
    Yes, I'm giving DSC the time. Mainly, because it's such a fantastic show in itself. And there's plenty of time for it to come into its own Trek space in the future.
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  3. Locutus of Bored

    Locutus of Bored Greedo is Good, Till the Next Edit Moderator

    Jul 5, 2004
    3 Feet Away from Han, but Still Missed by a Foot
    Ah, thanks.
  4. cultcross

    cultcross Every lie incurs a debt to the truth Moderator

    Jul 27, 2001
    The EU still
    It's quite normal in modern day militaries for doctors to graduate at higher ranks. They are much higher qualified than the average graduate, need authority in their jobs, and also they have to have pay grades which are at least similar to what they could expect as a civilian doctor. We can argue elsewhere over whether the latter applies to Starfleet....

    Yeah, the Lorca-orchestrated-it-all plotline explains Tilly and Landry as much as Stamets and Burnham. Lorca wanted the people he knew on the other side.
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  5. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Commodore Commodore

    May 27, 2009
    Daniels' Illinois
    She's an engineering genius. I like to think precocious Cadet Killy developing some sort of undetectable transporter drone kit, and then using it to instantaneously kill 50 people above her one day.

    MU Rhys: "What the hell is happening?!"
    MU Killy: "I have no idea, but if you make me Captain, it will probably stop."
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  6. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Vice Admiral Premium Member

    Aug 31, 2000
    PEBCAK! Three miles west of COVFEFE!
    Young cadets like that are full of piss and vinegar anyway, all thinking they're completely invincible and acting like Audie Murphy with 'roid rage. Saw it in ROTC all the time back in the day. They're all looking to make their bones and be visible enough to command so that they have a better sponsor and MOS pick by the time they graduate and land their commission. In the situation of the Valiant, you add a "Lord of the Flies" scenario into an already toxic mix of youthful bravado and you wind up getting a baby silverback gorilla playing with a thermonuclear device. They were quite accurately portrayed, IMO. :)
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  7. Jadeb

    Jadeb Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Jul 11, 2017
    Imagine Lorca's reaction when he expected Capt. Killy and got Tilly. Kind of a shame we didn't get to see that.
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  8. XCV330

    XCV330 A Being of Pure Caffeine Premium Member

    Sep 24, 2017
    jippers on a beach somewhere
    In his farewell speech to the crew he seemed proud of the work he'd done ramping them up. I think he took it as a challenge to get these wierd hippy-cult members into some kind of fighting shape.
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  9. Jack Watkins

    Jack Watkins Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Sep 13, 2017
    A little late, but my take on "Vaulting Ambition" (for anyone still reading this thread :-) ). https://wp.me/p8wVHj-bp
  10. Longinus

    Longinus Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Sep 2, 2008
    But that was painfully stupid.

    (Not that I have a problem with Tilly, they're probably not gonna make her captain for reals.)
  11. Jack Watkins

    Jack Watkins Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Sep 13, 2017
    That's Captain "Killy" to you!
  12. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Admiral Admiral

    Apr 11, 2014
    I suffered no ill effects ;)
  13. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jan 20, 2016
    Proof that Starfleet is run by idiots and we wonder why the Andorians and Tellarites stay away...:hugegrin: