Nope.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x12 - "Vaulting Ambition"
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Nope.
I suspect that whoever actually takes out Georgiou will have first dibs at the throne.
Okay, it's a bit more complicated than that. But the "evil" in the Mirror Universe springs from the Terran Empire existing rather than the UFP. Non-humans have were consistently not shown as evil in TOS, ENT, and DIS. DS9 is more all over the map, but it's well after the fall of the TE, so that's to be expected.
^ Nothing we've seen Lorca do to date is inherently evil, though. Morally questionable, perhaps, but not evil.
he eats fortune cookies without reading the fortunes. He doesn't even give the lucky numbers a lookover.
Mirror Worf and Kira are definitively evil.
No need. He read the Defiant's files.
I think that says it all right there, folks.
As I said, all over the map.
The way I interpret the MU is that it's not that humans are inherently evil, but the TE twisted humans so that acting "evil" became the norm. After it fell, the Alpha Quadrant was just a crapsack. By the 24th century, some people were better than in the Prime Universe (most of the Ferengi) but others were worse.
Oh, hell no. That bit where she was telling Burnham that if she'd trusted PU Georgiou, she should trust her to let them leave? Lying like a rug.
That statement of hers was so obviously nothing but emotional manipulation that it's downright painful. If it didn't sound a siren in Burnham's head immediately, I don't know what would.
It’s very understandable. “Luber” is tricky to spell
Seriously thinking of changing my name to Burstein von Knacker Thrasher
At this point we can safely assume the next Emperor's only title would be Tim, right?It’s very understandable. “Luber” is tricky to spell
Seriously thinking of changing my name to Burstein von Knacker Thrasher
... I mean, Gabe.
Mirror Lorca may be a lot more like Mirror Spock or Mirror O'Brien than a one-dimensional bad guy or psychopath. MU O'Brien had his cynical and scheming side but at his core he was remarkably like our universe's. MU Lorca likely has noble principles of a sort if he's willing to risk his own death and those of all his followers in the rebel movement to overthrow the Emperor and topple the existing power structure in the Terran Empire. How noble we have yet to see for certain and by the standards of our universe they could still come off as lopsidedly selfish and authoritarian, but since he is from the Mirror Universe we can't expect even the best among them to be squeaky clean and idealistic copies of the good people on our side.
That’s because it’s Michelle Yeoh. I love Michelle Yeoh in everything I have seen her in, and even if you aren’t familiar with her, Georgiou was instantly likeable, and here she is looking powerful and cool and graceful. There may even be a tiny bit of gender bias way in the mix, who knows, but every action we have seen the Emperor take, everything we see of her Empire, does not support her being ‘good’. She just offed a bunch of people in front of us to keep a secret after a milliseconds consideration if that. If she doesn’t know or suspect Lorca, she insisted he stay in an agoniser booth, with zero remorse.
If her words were meant to trigger Burnham into emotional response that distances her from Lorca, and Burnham is the audience POV....well, if some of the audience, like yourself are now easily swayed from Lorca, I would say the writers did their job and the Empress succeeded.
He never gained the secret of using the cloak, he only gained the secret to defeating the cloak.
But that could also be part of his plan - the Charon certainly destroyed that rebel base while the Shenzhou was completely unable to detect it, maybe the emperor has a cloak already.
Soooooooo... The captain's a mirror duplicate and the chief of security is a Klingon spy.
Starfleet really aren't trying, are they?
Starfleet really aren't trying, are they?
Considering the number of times the E-D crew, especially Data, were compromised, their level of giving a shit has always been fairly low.
Good point. Or maybe it was just a ruse to get back to the MU. Still, I think his desire to defeat the Klingons was real (they are non-Terran). And I think the anti-cloaking tech may help him in the MU.
No, Tim is a fine Imperial name.
