It already has been for most of the season.I know. It would nice if Discovery was apart of it.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x12 - "Vaulting Ambition"
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These characters just will not stay dead! Someone was saying to me last week when I said they don't die that Landry did! Wrong whoever you were
Death has no meaning on Discovery. No doubt Prime Tyler will emerge somewhere some time... sigh.Prime Tyler's body is dead, they used his body to alter Voq's. His mind is technically alive in Voq's brain now.
Unless you mean Mirror Tyler?
They're interchangeable...
Another thing I don't get - why did Burnham decide to throw her lot in with Mirror Georgiou against Lorca? Not that we have any reason to think that Lorca is actually a hero in any way, but we have ample knowledge that Georgiou is a nasty piece of work. Wouldn't the smart thing have been for Burnham to keep her confidence at that moment and not blurt it out? The flashbacks would have told the viewers enough.
because to Burnham, Georgiou is Georgiou. She trusts her and has no reason to trust Lorca any longer, now that she knows that he used her
Burnham decided to work with Emperor Georgiou before she realized who Lorca was.
Ned was the example setter. You were supposed to be surprised, because he was the archetypical "fantasy good guy whose heart of gold will save the day". It's everything after Ned that shouldn't surprise you.
Discovery isn't subverting tropes and types to that level. I'm not sure Trek fans would allow them to. I doubt any franchise with a decent fanbase would. That's the luxury of creating a new IP: you can take advantage of expectations without being held to them.
her other option would have been execution...
Practically the only saving grace from this episode. Finding out that Lorca was MU-native means that, essentially, the most nuanced, best portrayal of this entire series is a one-offer and, unless this has been an enormous headfake-within-a-headfake, Isaacs isn't coming back next season.
After I watch this show, I'll watch an episode of TNG or DS9 and feel satisfied. Discovery is like an appetizer - - not bad by any means, but not quite a meal. TNG etc. provides a main course. The episodes have structure. Characters are developed. Discovery is all plot, all the time.
For all we know the Empress had Saru brought over from the Shenzhou while they were on board her ship. I got the feeling that it was Saru, and that the Empress was making a point to Burnham by mentioning it. Of course only time will tell.
Lorca is a sexual predator who preyed on his adopted “daughter”. Betrayed PU Burnham and trapped her entire ship and crew in the MU to start with.
Why wouldn’t she side with the Emperor?
*Sigh* Looks like Baltar is a cylon.
Every bad twist predicted by the fans seems to be true. So now Lorca's different morality is meaningless, the choice has been taken away. This ruins his character completely. They are saying, nobody from the prime universe could possibly have different morality from the Federation, you have to be from the MU to have different morality.
My interest in the series just decreased significantly.
Every bad twist predicted by the fans seems to be true. So now Lorca's different morality is meaningless, the choice has been taken away. This ruins his character completely. They are saying, nobody from the prime universe could possibly have different morality from the Federation, you have to be from the MU to have different morality.
My interest in the series just decreased significantly.
I'm still not seeing how Starfleet Intelligence and Starfleet Medical allows essentially a Frankenstein's Monster whose had his engrams scrambled to continue to serve on active duty. I am not saying the writers won't do it, just that it stretches credulity a tad much.
That having been said, aside from Lorca, Tyler was my favourite.
So you're changing your opinion?
She was my favorite character! Hopefully they won’t totally waste her again.
