USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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Notice the "redesigning" the ship was refit once before TMP, the D got refit twice IIRC. Ships get refitted all the time. They however, do not get redesigned and converted to a new ship class often. In fact we only know of it happening once.
It’s not illegal. Was it illegal when J.J. Abrams or Roberto Orci or whoever said Cumberbatch wasn’t Khan, and it turned out that he was?
Feel free to believe the line that CBS is toting. I don’t. Why my opinion is such a problem for you is beyond me.
There's a difference between trying to keep certain plot points under wraps and simply stating this show/film/episode is set in the Prime Universe ( or not ).
Yep. As much as I dislike many of the visual aspects of the new series it is clearly set in the Prime timeline between ENT and TOS and every datapoint and historical reference made so far indicates the show is definitely a Prime storyline. We can argue over ship designs, Klingon makeup and uniforms but the fact is this is NOT the Kelvin timeline and these characters have no clue that the altered history created by Nero even exists.
If we're going to microanalyze DSC and lambaste facets of the show's aesthetics and technology then focus on those and leave the Kelvin timeline and other timelines out of it. This is the same timeline we last saw in Season 4 of ENT and the same one we'll see in Season 1 of TOS and the two pilots for that series. You can say the show looks wrong, but don't keep beating the drum of "it's set in another timeline and CBS has been lying to us the entire time."
Pick your fights and stop throwing punches at an opponent who just doesn't exist except in the heads of the most critical fans.
They own it so they can say it's part of the same continuity. But in real life they've just rebooted it with a new look and big changes which breaks continuity between shows. Some people are happy to play along, make up incredibly conveluted explanations and pretend everything fits perfectly, but some of us prefer to see this as it's own separate take on Star Trek.
I'm sorry, but that Terran modified Connie looks godawful. And I'm ok with change too. I'm not a purist. Just not ugly change...
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fair point.
fair point.
Nope
Personally I don't think DSC is ever going to show a Constitution in person so they can maintain the original design. You'll only see them on displays as graphics.
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That wasn't the point. The point was that the poster above was trying to argue that CBS did something illegal by their claim of "false advertising" that DSC takes place in the prime universe when IMHO it doesn't. As if CBS telling a lie to get more viewers was akin to them selling drugs or stealing cars.
On the topic of continuity...Star Trek was never designed to tell one large 50 year story that a bunch of nerds could pretend was a real world because of its relentlessly accurate continuity and adherence to consistency.
The fact that about 85-90% of it holds up very well despite all this is absolutely astounding.
I think fans got really spoiled and conditioned during the TNG era, when the show was produced by the same people, in the same timeframe with productions that were often overlapping, and felt that THIS is how all Star Trek was going to be. It's why everyone went shithouse when ENT premiered...and to a lesser degree now with DSC.
The fact that about 85-90% of it holds up very well despite all this is absolutely astounding.
I think fans got really spoiled and conditioned during the TNG era, when the show was produced by the same people, in the same timeframe with productions that were often overlapping, and felt that THIS is how all Star Trek was going to be. It's why everyone went shithouse when ENT premiered...and to a lesser degree now with DSC.
Selling chunks of mud as chocolate would be false advertising and illegal.
Choosing how to distinguish between alternate universes within one's own fictional setting, over which one has full creative control, not so much I should think.
I see they've decided on the extra intercooler fins
Either way, I'll be very interested to see the actual ship onscreen.
Anything that requires discussion and intricate detailing of entirely presumed ways Voyager's EMH sees or interacts with his world in order to excuse an obvious continuity error is, indeed, a whopping great continuity error.
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Yep.
People have already argued with you about this, I don't need to add to it, they've said what I could have.
The doctor is a million times more complicated then projecting a person.
I find it very unlikely DSC's holo-tech could handle him.
IF...what I've been told is accurate, you'll see the Enterprise somewhere in the next 5 episodes and it will be somewhat (but not drastically) redesigned. I hope that intel is true.
Yes it was. Abrams and Orci should have been locked up by the false advertising police.
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