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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x10 - "Despite Yourself"

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IDK - TOS Season One still beats it for me to this point, but of the post TOS TV Star Trek series, yes, it's been fairly strong/good out of the gate (Far, FAR better than TNG S1 <---- There was a stinker of a season nearly front to back (IMO) - YMMV. ;))

TNG season 1 is nigh unwatchable these days. I think enterprise gives it a run for its money as a better first season.
 
The Terran vessels on Enterprise had Phlox, andorians, Vulcans and Orions onboard and Kirks terran Enterprise had a few vulcans on it so the empire did allow aliens aboard. The Burnhamverse version of the mirror universe makes it up as it goes along just like the whole of STD.
 
At a certain point authoritarian regimes begin to all behave more or less the same regardless of the ideals of the people who put them in power. There are only so many endgames for being in that kind of power, staying in power, and keeping the populace motivated enough. Without that iron will and competence you're left without all the incredients for a successful communist, fascist, imperial etc superstate and the resulting covfefe..

Yup. And in this case the state...the Empire...is the top priority, not the dude or dudette at the top. So even if it is a dictatorship, it’s hallmarks could read as left or right. Like you say in your later post, and as the poster said.
Whenever I think of communism/socialist dictatorships, I think of the old Smirnoff ad with the revolutionaries in a cycle of evicting the inhabitants of the leaders office. There’s a reason 1984 is treated as a warning text by both sides of the political divide...by the time you are at the jackboots and peaked hats stage, it’s pretty hard to worry about the ideals that took you there, and probably best not to, as left or right, ‘glorious leaders’ of either type aren’t averse to making people disappear in the night.
The Terran Empire, as Burnham points out, if you have to fight so hard for position, you tend to always be looking over your shoulder...that’s true for ‘revolutions’ and true for...well..I have never found a hard clear word for the fascist side, because it’s basically the same thing, with many of the same approaches (popular support, scheming to use extant political structures, consolidate power through militarisation and police control and removing the structures used in order to pull the ladder up behind. Last thing you want if you want to keep power you won in fair election, is to have some other buggers going and winning a fair election....only the cap badges differ.)
This motivation of fear applies to either side of the notional divide, at their far ends, and both sides have their cooker cutters for how their good citizens should think or be. We see that in DSC as well as other MU episodes. Even the sometimes troublesome issues around ‘evil is gay’ in the MU are more often about the decadence and corruption of power letting you basically do whatever the heck you like to whoever you like at the top of the tree, and about the characters being hyped up and very...sensation motivated over there. Though it does wander a bit. It goes right back to TOS fandom though, the MU is sadistic, and there are things like the legendary ‘beat me up Scotty’ stuff in fandom, and the popularity of BDSM themes in Trek slashfic. This is something we also see over in the MU novels.
*shrug*
It’s a strange world.
 
The Terran vessels on Enterprise had Phlox, andorians, Vulcans and Orions onboard and Kirks terran Enterprise had a few vulcans on it so the empire did allow aliens aboard. The Burnhamverse version of the mirror universe makes it up as it goes along just like the whole of STD.

It may just be the DSC crew jumping to wrong conclusions based on their cliff notes guide to the MU. Burnham herself may be making a mistake in her reading of the Empire.
 
The Burnhamverse version of the mirror universe makes it up as it goes along just like the whole of STD.

No, I believe this writing team has had to put way more thought into things than any other Trek production because they are aware of they existence of "fans" that will harp on any perceived "mistake". Not naming anyone.......they are defiantly not just making it up as they go along.
 
No, I believe this writing team has had to put way more thought into things than any other Trek production because they are aware of they existence of "fans" that will harp on any perceived "mistake". Not naming anyone.......they are defiantly not just making it up as they go along.

Yes the makers of STD brought it people to make sure canon was adhered to half way through the shooting of this season so we should be seeing their input about now. This mirror episode could have been so different if the writers could just do what they wanted just like they did in episodes 1-9. Emperor Trump perhaps? ( to moderator:- the makers of STD said the series was an analogy of trumps america so they have brought this politics into it im merely continuing the theme set by them). Also what makes you a fan and others "fans"
 
Sorry for being a bit juvenile here but is it wrong to find the Mirror Universe Captain Tilly, or the prime universe's Tilly pretending to be Captain Tilly outrageously hot?
 
Sorry for being a bit juvenile here but is it wrong to find the Mirror Universe Captain Tilly, or the prime universe's Tilly pretending to be Captain Tilly outrageously hot?

You cant say that im afriad. The moderator enforced orthodoxy does allow sexual attraction to be voiced her. You cant say she is ugly either....
 
Yes the makers of STD brought it people to make sure canon was adhered to half way through the shooting of this season so we should be seeing their input about now. This mirror episode could have been so different if the writers could just do what they wanted just like they did in episodes 1-9. Emperor Trump perhaps? ( to moderator:- the makers of STD said the series was an analogy of trumps america so they have brought this politics into it im merely continuing the theme set by them). Also what makes you a fan and others "fans"

At this point I am assuming you are just trolling with your continued use of STD. How cute. The MU has been around for 50 years, once again you seem to be trying to insert hot topics into your posts. I never thought about LBJ or GWB during previous outings. "Fans" are FINOs.
 
At this point I am assuming you are just trolling with your continued use of STD. How cute. The MU has been around for 50 years, once again you seem to be trying to insert hot topics into your posts. I never thought about LBJ or GWB during previous outings. "Fans" are FINOs.

STD is short and quick to type. ENT, VOY, DS9, TOS and TNG bad too?.
 
STD is short and quick to type. ENT, VOY, DS9, TOS and TNG bad too?.

One of these things is not like the others

That would be awesome. It's too bad they've already mentioned there is an Emperor and not an Empress leading the Terran Empire.

A faceless emperor, their gender could be unknown as well

The Terran vessels on Enterprise had Phlox, andorians, Vulcans and Orions onboard and Kirks terran Enterprise had a few vulcans on it so the empire did allow aliens aboard. The Burnhamverse version of the mirror universe makes it up as it goes along just like the whole of STD.

Aliens might be rarer in the Empire then they were in ENT.
 
She was definitely a highlight. I loved how she owned her version of "Captain Killy". She's shown once again that she can step up to the challenge when the stakes are high (like she did on her first boarding party mission on the Glenn).

I still prefer her red hair, but she looked amazing with the HBIC hair, the blingy but badass uniform, sitting in the hot seat. I love that they showed off her fuller figure without being vulgar about it. Great costuming.
 
It was good.

It reminded me of when linda park really shone in the ent mirror universe episode.
 
You can say STD, you're not the only one who uses it here.

Some people though, based on your previous interactions, thought you were doing it on purpose as a negative.

I am negative towards DIS and im allowed to be. I dont have to love the show.
 
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