It was Injustice 2, but apparently it includes Mortal Kombat characters:
https://www.cbr.com/arrow-injustice-2-easter-egg/
Spoilers The Flash - Season 4
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It was Injustice 2, but apparently it includes Mortal Kombat characters:
https://www.cbr.com/arrow-injustice-2-easter-egg/
So, I watched the latest episode. The recap showed a bunch of versions of Wells, which would have been cool to see but not worth breaking my rule about skipping episodes with a certain shit character. Overall this episode just made the Thinker really lame. So, his motivation is...? I mean, I get why he became what he did. he was an arrogant ass who considered people beneath him, so he tried to increase his brain power and that lead to his current physical condition. I have absolutely no idea why he's interacting with Barry at all. Is he trying to pull an ultra humanite and put his brain in Barry's body? I don't recall him saying that, but its either that or he's doing (really convoluted) evil things just to be evil. I've never seen a villain put so much effort into doing so much for absolutely no end goal.
I get that he considers people to basically be ants, which is enough justification to be evil. But, it doesn't explain his obsession with Barry. Maybe I just missed it because I spent half the episode enraged that they were pulling the old "Hero is absolutely right about something but his friends keep giving him shit and not believing him until the end of the story/episode" cliche. So, maybe while team Flash were being gigantic, condescending assholes to Barry there was some throwaway line about why The thinker is interacting with The Flash, but if so I missed it.
I get that he considers people to basically be ants, which is enough justification to be evil. But, it doesn't explain his obsession with Barry. Maybe I just missed it because I spent half the episode enraged that they were pulling the old "Hero is absolutely right about something but his friends keep giving him shit and not believing him until the end of the story/episode" cliche. So, maybe while team Flash were being gigantic, condescending assholes to Barry there was some throwaway line about why The thinker is interacting with The Flash, but if so I missed it.
Nope, we don't his motivation yet.
At this point, it could even be benign.
You know that there are two Devoe in play.
The wife.
If Cliff dies, and the Barry is going to be at fault, that lady is going to go apeshit.
At this point, it could even be benign.
You know that there are two Devoe in play.
The wife.
If Cliff dies, and the Barry is going to be at fault, that lady is going to go apeshit.
Rewatching today, I realized how much "Therefore I Am" was done like an Arrow episode, with the back-and-forth between flashbacks and the present throughout the episode, and the use of matching visual elements to transition between past and present -- even a "whoosh" sound effect, though it wasn't the exact same sound effect Arrow uses. (In fact, there was a double "whoosh" for the start of the flashbacks, since they started out in sepia tone and the second "whoosh" was for the return to normal color.) It's kind of ironic, since Arrow isn't doing flashbacks regularly anymore. It's like the Flash producers wanted to pick up the slack a bit.
Looks like Barry finds the Thinker's secret lair. We also see Barry apparently try to physically attack the Thinker. My guess is the Flash will try a direct assault on the thinker and fail which will lead Team Flash to realize that the Thinker is too smart for a direct approach and they need to adopt a more subtle strategy against him.
My comment on 4x7: WOW!
I'll elaborate a bit. I really like the bad guys. I don't know the newer comics and these villians are new to me. I like the actors and the whole setting. Both seemed to be very cheesy at the beginning of the season but this one changed it for me.
And again, I don't know the comics so all those hints like "UUUh, you are Mr. XY!" work very nicely. I really loved the press conference for example.
In my eyes it was a little too much that everybody doubted Barry all the time. I can understand that it makes things dramatic but it was a bit too much perhaps. Anyway, this will be a great season.
I'll elaborate a bit. I really like the bad guys. I don't know the newer comics and these villians are new to me. I like the actors and the whole setting. Both seemed to be very cheesy at the beginning of the season but this one changed it for me.
And again, I don't know the comics so all those hints like "UUUh, you are Mr. XY!" work very nicely. I really loved the press conference for example.
In my eyes it was a little too much that everybody doubted Barry all the time. I can understand that it makes things dramatic but it was a bit too much perhaps. Anyway, this will be a great season.
It's ironic you should say that, because Clifford DeVoe/The Thinker is one of the oldest Flash villains, dating from 1943. Although his wife is pretty much an original character to the show. She's apparently vaguely based on a recent, minor, male DC villain called the Mechanic, but she doesn't have anything in common with him besides the sobriquet.
Well, I was a Superman fan and I didn't follow the Flash comics. I read those 70s / silver age comics at the end of the 80s, when I had a concussion and got a ton of comics. I had some Flash comics, maybe he was in one of them.
In this incarnation it's the actor that makes him interesting. He reminded me a bit of the Lois&Clark Lex Luthor, John Shea or they both have that intense presence. The back-ground story of The Thinker is nice too.
I think it's interesting that they went with South African actors/characters for the DeVoes. That's not a nationality I often see represented in US television or film. The comics' version is American, so I suppose they wrote the characters' nationality to match the actors'. Which is a nice change from all the Arrowverse actors who are English or Australian but faking American accents.
certainly hope that he's trying to use Barry to cure his physical condition, otherwise the whole setup here is pretty silly. He's spent a ton of energy getting the Flash involved in trying to thwart him, even setting it up to get him out of the speedforce. If he doesn't need Barry for random evil reason, seems like he could have done a lot better just not poking the bear.
Looking a lot like a 24 plot, though. Plan within a plan within a plan, every one depending on 5 others and dumb luck, but no chance to modify any once you started. And then the 'real' plan, which could have just been Step 1 without all the nonsense.
Looking a lot like a 24 plot, though. Plan within a plan within a plan, every one depending on 5 others and dumb luck, but no chance to modify any once you started. And then the 'real' plan, which could have just been Step 1 without all the nonsense.
Sneak peak for tonight:
So, the super genius (who knows the answer to every question ever asked) didn't know about the Flash's ability to vibrate through barriers...? Or was that just supposed to be a head-fake (with DaVoe purposely letting Barry escape)?
Also, at super-speed, couldn't Barry have cleaned up all the evidence and escaped with the body?
Also, at super-speed, couldn't Barry have cleaned up all the evidence and escaped with the body?
Yes, but he decided not to run.
Looks like Iris isn't too happy about the double ceremony at the end of the crossover.
DeVoe definitely intended Barry to escape. He set up the frame well in advance, by sending Barry & Iris the knife set with only one knife so that Barry would get his fingerprints on it.
No, my question is, why did he capture Barry in the first place? Just to distract Team Flash long enough for "Dominic" to bond with Caitlin? At first I figured he was going to put his consciousness into Barry's body, and that Dominic's telepathy would let him sense at the party that Barry was no longer Barry. I sure read that wrong.
By the way, Brainstorm/Dominic Lanse is a Mister Terrific villain in recent comics.
I love it that flotation mode made a comeback! That's one hell of a brick joke.
He was a CSI before he was a speedster. He probably couldn't bring himself to tamper with a crime scene.
As I recall, "The Trial of Barry Allen" was a pretty prominent comics storyline just before Barry died in Crisis on Infinite Earths. It seems they're doing a storyline loosely based on it, though the circumstances are entirely different.
Just like LBJ.
When Barry was arrested for a murder he was framed for by a supervillain, I thought, "Like father, like son." Hopefully his trial will go better than Henry's did.
When was Cecille let in on Barry being The Flash? I don't remember them ever showing her being told, but clearly she knew in this season's "Luck Be a Lady". She definitely wasn't in on the secret in last season's "Cause and Effect". I wonder if there was a scene cut somewhere explaining or showing this.
It got confusing toward the end. I thought the body switch had taken place weeks before the Christmas party at Joe's. Then I thought, how was "real" DeVoe able to kidnap Barry?
I grow tired of Katee Sackoff's Magneto-wannabe villainess. I still think she has ridiculous powers.
I grow tired of Katee Sackoff's Magneto-wannabe villainess. I still think she has ridiculous powers.
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