Not groundbreaking, just good to see.
The Groundbreaking Stamets / Culber Kiss
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Is this the first man-to-man kiss on screen in Star Trek? Yeesh, for a franchise everyone touts as being so progressive, Star Trek is really behinds the times in regards to homosexuality.
But yeah, Stamets and Culber kissing is such a non-issue to me I didn't even make note of it. In fact, I don't really remember it now.
But yeah, Stamets and Culber kissing is such a non-issue to me I didn't even make note of it. In fact, I don't really remember it now.
It’s long overdue. Honestly they should be ashamed it took this long.
I thought the entire scene between Stamets and Culber, including the kiss, was touching and extremely well played. Great chemistry there and it actually feels like this might be one of the more believable relationships ever portrayed in Trek. Hats off to the actors and writers on this so far.
Bashir and O'brien preferred to bond in private.
I hope Garak never found out.
The uniforms filtered them out, even when the replicators malfunctioned on Taco Tuesday and the whole crew got sick.
Stamets himself is one of the few characters on the show who actually feels like a real person, which I think has more to do with the actor than the writing. But yeah, the romance between him and Culber is one of the better romances seen in Trek, and I will concede the writers probably played a part in that anyway.
That's because nobody used the bathroom normally since the transporter was invented. As a result, babies born after 2199 stopped having anuses.
They all fart out their mouths. We call it "technobabble"
It's the writing, not just the acting.
Discovery dialogue is done in an unusually "tight" manner more akin to movie writing than TV writing. Characters usually don't get to have little interactions which provide nuance to them but don't have much to do with the story. Lorca and Saru, for example, only get dialogue with Burnham, or dialogue which furthers along either the plot of the week or the plot arc of the season.
Stamets gets real dialogue though - honest character moments. I think the reason is because they realized in order to establish him as a character in a gay relationship, they had to show him just being a human being with his partner, not as a foil for Burnham and/or a plot device. It's also why he's the breakout role, IMHO.
Jake and Nog were obviously a couple.
It would have been groundbreaking in 1997 but not really in 2017.
Quark was a woman at the time, so it arguably doesn't count, even though two male actors kissed. Not to mention that whole episode is so offensive it should be burned from canon - or at least, burned from my memory.
What was the name of that female Ferengi who dressed up as a man and was in love with Quark? Obviously that wasn't a male-male kiss, but Jadzia clearly didn't think there would have been anything wrong with it if it was.
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