Starfleet awarded Saru the Silver Pacifier with Crossed Rattles for showing exceptional valour while babysitting a Federation starship without wetting himself too often.
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Best First Officer in the history of Trek
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His threat ganglia are the most decorated body parts of the mid-23rd century if you don't count Lieutenant James T. Kirk's groin.
Yes, of course you count Kirk's family jewels.
Saru is a monumental and spineless coward. It embarrasses me that there are humans serving under him. Hes the biggest pussy in the history of the milky way galaxy and thats saying something.
A lousy character, maybe. But as an officer...he defeated a Borg invasion of the Federation with a single ship, dude.
Data defeated the Borg - Riker just stood on the Bridge ready to ram the ship into the Cube and ignoring Worf's questions when the Hull was about to breach.
Riker, without a shadow of doubt.
She should be a Captain.
if i were to rank them:
Spock: too many accomplishments to name. Saved the entire crew of Enterprise with an act of self-sacrifice when he was acting XO (though Captain).
George Kirk (Kelvin event): saved over 800 lives and possibly stopped the Nerada from taking out an unprepared Federation, or at least gave Vulcan a few more years at the cost of his own life.
T'Pol: Set a standard for Starfleet's science officers and XO's for years to come. Helped establish relations between Vulcan and lovesick Floridians. Did her part to help resolve the Xindi Crisis.
Kira: It's not easy when you're boss is also your prophet/messiah. She managed it even while having someone else's baby. Extra points for being on Defiant.
Riker: various accomplishments that were overshadowed by more talented crew members around him. He's still pretty good though. He's the top of the line Ford in the parking lot of XO's. No one will complain that much about him, but isn't that a Jaguar two cars down?
Chakoteh: meh
Saru: overlooked for promotion on the Shenzou, hard to say if attrition or his science background got him the XO position. He may be an example of the Peter Principle or maybe he'll get past his innate cowardice and become truly great. Too early to tell. If he does one or two things right and stops talking about his people he can sprint past Chakoteh.
Una: don't know enough about her.
Burnham: Possibly the worst first officer in starfleet history. She's the gold standard of bad XO's. When you become a captain, they make you take a class now in "How to avoid being nerve pinched, sucker punched or tossed down a Jefferies tube by your well meaning First Officer."
Whoever it is on The Orville Reddenbacker: I don't know because it's not a fucking star trek show. Do we have to bring that show up on every thread? The Expanse takes place in space too. Can we discuss that as an alternate trek show as well?
Spock: too many accomplishments to name. Saved the entire crew of Enterprise with an act of self-sacrifice when he was acting XO (though Captain).
George Kirk (Kelvin event): saved over 800 lives and possibly stopped the Nerada from taking out an unprepared Federation, or at least gave Vulcan a few more years at the cost of his own life.
T'Pol: Set a standard for Starfleet's science officers and XO's for years to come. Helped establish relations between Vulcan and lovesick Floridians. Did her part to help resolve the Xindi Crisis.
Kira: It's not easy when you're boss is also your prophet/messiah. She managed it even while having someone else's baby. Extra points for being on Defiant.
Riker: various accomplishments that were overshadowed by more talented crew members around him. He's still pretty good though. He's the top of the line Ford in the parking lot of XO's. No one will complain that much about him, but isn't that a Jaguar two cars down?
Chakoteh: meh
Saru: overlooked for promotion on the Shenzou, hard to say if attrition or his science background got him the XO position. He may be an example of the Peter Principle or maybe he'll get past his innate cowardice and become truly great. Too early to tell. If he does one or two things right and stops talking about his people he can sprint past Chakoteh.
Una: don't know enough about her.
Burnham: Possibly the worst first officer in starfleet history. She's the gold standard of bad XO's. When you become a captain, they make you take a class now in "How to avoid being nerve pinched, sucker punched or tossed down a Jefferies tube by your well meaning First Officer."
Whoever it is on The Orville Reddenbacker: I don't know because it's not a fucking star trek show. Do we have to bring that show up on every thread? The Expanse takes place in space too. Can we discuss that as an alternate trek show as well?
That's all well and good, but you'd be ignoring the entire point of a chain of command. Spock's on that ship to command it, not do every grunt's job, or get himself killed doing something someone else could do. He's a senior officer with decades of experience. The engineer isn't even out of school. It takes a lot more time and resources to replace the former than the latter. The latter cannot replace the former.
If, at some point, Adm. Kirk is incapacitated in the battle, Spock is supposed to be right there to step in. Having to play "where/who is the captain" can get everyone killed.
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And on a ship of 1,000+ people, TNG always sent the same 3 people (plus one random) on every away mission. If you're arguing that Trek continuously depicts terrible procedures and mission policies, then yes. Otherwise I don't get your point.
This thread is in the wrong place, Kira was in DS9 not STD.
One of the big problems with Discovery for me. We never got to know Burnham as a character or first officer. We are thrown directly into a mutiny that didn't make much sense.
It is hard to come back from the first impression that she is a broken idiot.
Spock, all day, every day.
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