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When Do You Want To See Burnham Become The STD Captain?
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Trusting the untrustworthy?
No, the hyperbolic "violate everything we know about the Star Trek universe and make a mockery of the chain of command". Come on its a TV show.
My only comment is that Burnham has the possibility of earning redemption and getting command someday. I don't care if it happens in the show, in a book, or cartoon spinoff.
But, I am amused by the fact that the supposed "evolved" Federation and Starfleet will label people as irredeemable. and beyond rehabilitation.
90 trillion people.
You get one chance.
Then it's on to the next sucker.
You get one chance.
Then it's on to the next sucker.
Great post!
Nah Starfleet loves redemption.
I agree with his sentiment. Gosh we wouldn't be commenting at all if we dismissed any relevance to the obvious fact it's just a TV show
I still think that Janeway should have spat on Ransoms request to team up and "stop the baddies" at the end of Equinox, because he'd a head clearing epiphany that cleaned his morality pipes, and all was right.
Actually, he had a sex dream about Seven of Nine and all was right, so maybe it was a different bunch of pipes that got cleared of blockages?
Equinox is a weird story that doesn't make sense if Starfleet Officers are unstoppably heroic.
Sorry but it's a bit too hyperbolic when discussing fiction. As @fireproof78 pointed out the Federation and Starfleet (And Star Trek) likes a good redemption story. So, for Burnham to rise above her past actions and redeem her self (even to the point of become a Captain) is very much in keeping with the ideas of Starfleet, the Federation and Star Trek.I agree with his sentiment. Gosh we wouldn't be commenting at all if we dismissed any relevance to the obvious fact it's just a TV show
I don't do Voyager. So I've no idea what this post means.
It's okay I do Voyager, I get this.
Discovery can't even make a decent second rate copy of these two episodes (Equinox) from Voyager
It showed a corrupt Captain in Ransom (though under great sufferance), a Janeway just about off the rails, but sweet irony, a Chakotay clinging to Starfleet principles. The 'sex dream' with Seven on the beach - that was odd.
Coming from that episode that's saying a lot
So? Give her a ticker-tape parade, erect a statue in her honor on the colony world, and commute her sentence to time served. But I wouldn't even restore her commission, much less give her a command of her own. After the war is over, she shouldn't even be a "specialist". Cut her loose and send her on her way.
It's not about "redemption", it's about not having any grasp of how to follow. A person who is so incapable of following orders, that she would result to mutiny against her mentor, of all people, is not leadership material in a military setting.
And, no, I don't give a damn what Voyager did or didn't do. First, that series wont occur for over 100 years. Second, much of what it did, it did rather poorly.
The sex dream was a demonstration of insanity.
Before this, Ransom was a sane man making awful decisions from terrible choices.
After the fantasy, Janeway trusted an insane man to work side by side with her.
Only an idiot trusts crazy.
Before this, Ransom was a sane man making awful decisions from terrible choices.
After the fantasy, Janeway trusted an insane man to work side by side with her.
Only an idiot trusts crazy.
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People learn and grow. The Burnham from the Vulcan Hello may not be the Burnham who gets her own command.
She was his.. humanity.
Ransom got a surgeon to cut into her brain with a knife, until she was amenable to his needs.
A few more flicks with that scalpel, and Ransom wouldn't have to rely on a substandard knock off, to fulfil his naughty fantasies, about this young woman.
Wouldn't that be called Gene (R) Therapy?
