Hey I don't write the regulations. Think about what Burnham did. She physically disabled her Captain. She attempted to fire first. She assumed command only because she mutinied. Mutiny on a ship, a confined vessel on the brink of war, war that Michael personally supplied the martyr for, put her in an untenable situation. Did Michael follow Starfleets's direction or Sarek's advice? Was it personal? Does any of that matter. If she wanted to act alone that would've been her choice but she broke rank and was given another chance by Georgiou. That failed and resulted in Georgiou's death. She accepted a sentence and is being given another chance. Michael is hardly suffering consequences beyond second chances. She just might not be Starfleet, command material.
When Do You Want To See Burnham Become The STD Captain?
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I dunno. She has a lot of the same connections as Spock. I'm sure T'pau and Sarek could work a "deal".Burnham, clearly, is beyond being wiped clean...
She is Starfleet command material. She just isn't flawless like all the other captains...oh wait.
I disagree, and her current lack of rank and status within Starfleet is telling.
Well technically she's a prisoner on a work release program.
So, she is forever prohibited from command?
I would choose that. She can serve as a specialist and attain her redemption without the reward of Captaincy.
Command can be given to anyone.
It can't be taken.
In a catastrophic situation, Command goes to the highest ranking non corpse.
It can't be taken.
In a catastrophic situation, Command goes to the highest ranking non corpse.
That's not true. Command can be taken if you mutiny.
I perfectly understand the feeling that her record may be an obstacle or the fear that the writers may make it happen to soon or too easily, but this idea going around that she cannot ever become a captain under any circumstances is just bizarre. This is *Starfleet*. They've forgiven worse than this. Several times over.
Yes of course, if it is written anything can happen.
Some have interpreted the line as inferring that Spock would pay for it with his life.
T'Pau says "Live long and Prosper, Spock"
Spock says "I shall do neither, for I have killed my captain, and my friend."
I don't see a reason for Burnham to be made Captain. I do see her having to take over command of the Discovery at some point, in a crisis, but not permanently.
She was stripped of rank. She's no longer an officer. And whether or not it was deserved, she was sentenced to life in prison. Let's say she saves earth(or maybe Antos IV) and the President of the Federation pardons her, or whoever has that power. Do they give her her rank back? And then some?
If Spock really had killed Kirk, even though it was in a sanctioned duel, would he still be in Starfleet? He didn't seem to think so.
Also, she's the main character of a show that was promoted as specifically not focusing on the Captain. And she wasn't cast to play a captain. The only way I see it happening is in the final episode to feature Burnham showing her in command of her own ship in the closing shot, and showing her journey complete, from that first conversation when we were introduced to Burnham. A story concluded.
Other than that, I have a very difficult time picturing "The adventures of Captain Burnham."
No captains chair for her. She has not earned it. I dont see Lorca going anywhere anytime soon and that's fine with me.
She rebelled against her captain and handed a life sentence.
For all who think Burnham should be captain, can you think of any analogous situation (fictional or otherwise) where a traitor and mutineer could plausibly be reinstated to military service and elevated to a command position?
To use a real-life example, can you imagine the US Army reinstating Bowe Bergdahl, promoting him, and placing him in command of troops in the field? It's absurd; and his crimes were minor compared to Burnham's.
The only thing that could put Burnham in the command chair is terrible screenwriting, which means it will probably happen.
To use a real-life example, can you imagine the US Army reinstating Bowe Bergdahl, promoting him, and placing him in command of troops in the field? It's absurd; and his crimes were minor compared to Burnham's.
The only thing that could put Burnham in the command chair is terrible screenwriting, which means it will probably happen.
You're right. This is easy pickins. She could be much more than a mere captain.
Spock, Data, Chakotay, etc, etc. Starfleet isn't the US military.
Yeah, but that was part of an official ceremony that was recognized under Vulcan law and tradition (and therefore must be recognized under Federation law as well). If Spock had killed Kirk, there'd be nothing that the Federation or Starfleet could do to punish him.
As for Burnham: Perhaps Spock said "Absolutely no record" of mutiny because he was reluctant to admit that it was his adopted sister who committed one?
