The timeline diverged before Burnham's mutiny.
If the 2nd officer, third in line to Command, is the CMO... Who dat?
If the 2nd officer, third in line to Command, is the CMO... Who dat?
When Do You Want To See Burnham Become The STD Captain?
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Never.
If she has the potential, she could become a starship captain eventually. But not of the USS Discovery within the timeframe of this series. Not unless she's promoted back to Commander, and about three or four people in the command chain die or are incapacitated. Than I could see her as captain or acting captain for the duration (like Riker was a few times when Picard was out, or Tukok when Janeway was left behind).
Plus Captain Tilly runs an awesome ship
Plus Captain Tilly runs an awesome ship
Maybe if her mutiny gets wiped and her rank restored, one of the terms is that she is permanently a Commander?
Remember that Michael Burnham wanted her punishment. It took Captain Lorca (and perhaps Tilly) to convince her to take the position on USS Discovery despite wanting to have her life sentence and stay in prison until she rotted away. The person that was hardest on Burnham so far is Burnham. She took all the blame for everything, including things she probably didn't do or cause. Mostly because she blames herself for her captain's death, which was the thing she was trying to prevent with her failed mutiny. Her mutiny accomplished nothing but to get her off the bridge when she was probably needed most. It didn't even cause the war to start. Her actions against the Klingons were not even part of her crimes or sentence.
Yep. She was intent on punishing her self. Had she wanted to actually defend her self , I'm willing to bet the charges and sentence would have been lighter.
Remorse and regret don't change facts.
The only fact is that she attacked her captain (with a nerve pinch) and attempted to fire on a Klingon vessel. That was it. She did not fire on a Klingon vessel, since her captain came up and arrested her quickly. Failed mutiny. There are no other charges that should be filed against her.
Her reasoning was sound, but I doubt she even attempted to justify herself in court.
Her reasoning was sound, but I doubt she even attempted to justify herself in court.
Um disabling your 'boss' is not a good thing. She did so to take command of the ship and tried to fire first. Bad reasoning.
Reasoning, historically sited example of proper relations with the Klingon Empire. She was conducting proper diplomacy in the Vulcan tradition with the Klingons. That her captain didn't reason that way due to her human/Starfleet stance that they do not fire first likely is why so many people were killed that day...not because of Michael Burnham. Proper diplomacy with Klingons. Show of strength earns respect. If you don't, they shoot you out of the stars. It would be logical given the Klingons usual actions.
Spock killed kirk in Amok Time.
And therein lies the chain of command that Michael mutinied against.
Starfleet doesn't have the death penalty, except for General Order 7. And that has nothing to do with a mutiny.
Also, how often did Kirk ignore the Admiralty? Insubordination? Apparently not as bad as mutiny.
If Kirk committed mutiny, this discussion would be how unfair Starfleet was to him.
Insubordination not as bad as mutiny? Yep.
He ignores them, the diplomatic corps, government officials... How does this guy still have his command, again?
So, Kirk's stealing of a starship, diverting course to save Spock's life over a colony in distress, among others, is redeemable, but Burnham's mutiny is beyond saving?
I don't understand this point of view.
Wiped clean.
Burnham, clearly, is beyond being wiped clean...
