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Spoilers Tech issue with 1x06

Out of curiosity. Among those struggling with the portrayal of fictional future technology in a TV series that spans fifty years and unforseen leaps in actual real world technology, are any also hung up on there now being female captains in Star Fleet, when that position was clearly denied to women in the 23rd century, or would that just be crazy?

Nope.

But when one show goes out of its way to show a technology as new, then another show supposedly set in the same timeline shows that tech a decade to a hundred years earlier, some folks are going to have a problem with that.
 
As for the artificial eye stuff, the DSC helm officer lost an eye in battle. Geordi was born congenitally blind. Restoring sight via an existing functional optic nerve and granting it where said nerve never worked are apples and oranges. That plus all the arguments folk already brought up.
 
Out of curiosity. Among those struggling with the portrayal of fictional future technology in a TV series that spans fifty years and unforseen leaps in actual real world technology, are any also hung up on there now being female captains in Star Fleet, when that position was clearly denied to women in the 23rd century, or would that just be crazy?

I pointed this out on an earlier thread discussing Captain Georgiou, but I'll repeat: the conversation between Kirk and Lester in Turnabout Intruder does NOT indicate women can't be captains. Janice Lester is saying that when Kirk took the Enterprise, he no longer had room in his life for her, and made the choice to shut her out ("Your world of starship captains doesn't admit women. It isn't fair [that you treated me that way]").

JANICE: The year we were together at Starfleet is the only time in my life I was alive.
KIRK: I never stopped you from going on with your space work.
JANICE: Your world of starship captains doesn't admit women. It isn't fair.
KIRK: No, it isn't. And you punished and tortured me because of it.
JANICE: I loved you. We could've roamed among the stars.
KIRK: We'd have killed each other.
JANICE: It might have been better.
 
...The whole artifical eye thing is complete speculation anyway. There's absolutely no indication as to how well Detmer can see. So even assuming implants are at 80% eyesight capacity pre-First Contact, they could easily be 10% here.

And that's putting aside the fact that Geordi's VISOR/implants were actually "better" than eyes to begin with (according to Data) and the only reason it looked like a bad mushroom trip was because the computer was encoding all the data Geordi's brain processes from the VISOR as an image, which is kind of the visual equivalent of listening to dialup internet.
 
Artificial optics for the blind are under development right now, and have been for years. Hopefully in two and a half centuries, the tech will be a lot further along.

Kor
 
Well ...its possibly that they could have a Holodeck on the constitution class ships ... only that they doesn't have stories to told on it.

Its simple.
 
You'd think the flashes of light when they fired their weapons, or all the flashing and strobing as the holodeck deactivated at the end would have caused Lorca some eye-related discomfort.
 
Oh please:

^^^
between this and Spock saying the world was on the verge of a 'Dark Ages' are you really going to try and claim that a major world power like the U.S. sat out of this conflict? It wasn't some minor conflict, in all of Trek lore it's pretty much described as a World War.

There is a difference between a country being involved in an armed conflict and having that conflict fought in said country. The United States was involved in both world wars, but no major battles were fought on the North American continent.

Ravage the entire eastern hemisphere and LA could still look as it did in Future's End. In fact, Tuvok was concerned about the dangerous levels of ultraviolet radiation. Perhaps a consequence of the Eugenics Wars.
 
Ravage the entire eastern hemisphere and LA could still look as it did in Future's End. In fact, Tuvok was concerned about the dangerous levels of ultraviolet radiation. Perhaps a consequence of the Eugenics Wars.

Hadn't thought of that before, but it does make a certain amount of sense. After all, coming from effectively a desert planet, Tuvok would be used to bright sunlight in general (so the modern "normal" level shouldn't be a concern).
 
Well ...its possibly that they could have a Holodeck on the constitution class ships ... only that they doesn't have stories to told on it.

Its simple.
So that's why there were so many holdoeck episodes in the 24th century shows. They had to compensate for TOS :hugegrin:
 
In the 23rd century the holodeck didn't have the stupid "safeties off" option, it didn't malfunction in ridiculous ways, so an episode titled "People went on the holodeck, had some fun and nothing weird happened" got canned in script stage ;)
 
if his later decision to opt for ocular implants was due more to technological advance in that field than his own personal growth of confidence

Geordi's visor was used to destroy the Enterprise in Generations, and was used to almost cause a war between the Klingon Empire and the Federation in 'The Mind's Eye'.

Perhaps his choice was 'leave starfleet and keep the visor, or move to something less hackable'

So like talking about CD verse vinyl records. Both are round, both can play music. They just do it in different ways using different devices to produce similar, if not the same results.

On top of that people still refer to listening to a record, when they actually mean listening to a spotify playlist. We have 3 TV channels at home - netflix, amazon and iplayer. None of them are channels, but ask my kids what a TV channel is they'll say netflix. Common terms and the technology underneath are not necessarily the same. Your phone doesn't have a bell on it any more, but it still rings, my hoover is made by dyson, and some people still tape shows despite being tapeless.
 
On top of that people still refer to listening to a record, when they actually mean listening to a spotify playlist. We have 3 TV channels at home - netflix, amazon and iplayer. None of them are channels, but ask my kids what a TV channel is they'll say netflix. Common terms and the technology underneath are not necessarily the same. Your phone doesn't have a bell on it any more, but it still rings, my hoover is made by dyson, and some people still tape shows despite being tapeless.

"Internet radio" - there's the ideal example right there.
 
They had holodecks in TAS, and Discovery *is* an engineering testbed for new inventions.
Probably the dozenth time someone said the animated series thing now. Can someone post where they officially said the animated series counts?
 
Probably the dozenth time someone said the animated series thing now. Can someone post where they officially said the animated series counts?
Since when do you care what officially counts according to "them"? You've already decided that Judge Marsh makes the rulings:
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The problem is, the proceedings are rigged. Any evidence that doesn't fit your foregone conclusion is non-admissible.
 
Probably the dozenth time someone said the animated series thing now. Can someone post where they officially said the animated series counts?
Whoever said TAS didn't count, other than Roddenberry's legal counsel which has been proven to have inappropriately overstepped numerous boundaries in the early days of TNG when he was too ill to deal with things himself?

Kor
 
Since when do you care what officially counts according to "them"? You've already decided that Judge Marsh makes the rulings:


The problem is, the proceedings are rigged. Any evidence that doesn't fit your foregone conclusion is non-admissible.
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