Spoilers Tech issue with 1x06
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And I told the police it was sugar, not cocaine.
Something we can all agree on at last.
Disocovery and the Enterprise could have both normal food stores and synthesizers.
So then, by your logic, any reference to creating food by any means other than replicators in the TNG era would also be a canon violation. Alternatively, replicators were never the be-all and end-all able to solve all food/resource issues on a planetary scale, especially not TOS's more primitive version.
In fact, by your logic, Dr. Leighton was actually building a revolutionary planet-wide mechanical vending machine, because apparently, that's what "synthesized"/"synthetic" means now. Anyway, Dr. Leighton was a liar.
I think you've lost your way, man. Aren't you supposed to be criticizing Discovery? At this point, you don't need Discovery at all. Based on this argument, TOS itself is non-canon. Is that where you want to go?
BTW, the novels are ALREADY handling this mugatto shit like I knew they would.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2017/09/interview-david-mack-star-trek-discovery-desperate-hours/
MACK: Once I began in earnest to develop the story that Bryan Fuller had asked for, I struggled at first to think of a situation that would be so dire as to merit the involvement of two Starfleet vessels, especially when one of them was the Enterprise.
I didn’t want to let the Enterprise and its crew overshadow the book’s main cast on the Shenzhou. I shared this conundrum with fellow author John Jackson Miller, and he gave me some good advice. “Pit the two crews against each other,” he said, “and have them both be right.” Once I did that, the shape of the story revealed itself, and it came together very naturally.
The chief concern I had in placing the crews and ships side-by-side in my narrative was that I knew it would invite questions and comparisons. In particular, folks would ask why the technology of an older ship looks more advanced than that of a newer ship. And why did the crews wear different uniforms? I didn’t want to offend fans of the new show or fans of the Original Series, so I knew I couldn’t just pretend that the Enterprise looked like the Shenzhou, or that its crew wore the same uniforms as the ones we see in Discovery.
I addressed the difference in the ships’ aesthetics to a human tendency to want to redesign even the simplest things every few years, whether we need to or not. This confuses Earth’s closest allies, the Vulcans and the Andorians, who can’t understand why humans don’t just pick a style and stick with it. But that’s just the way humans are — always changing fashions, styles, etc.
Captain Pike and the USS Enterprise crew, as seen in “The Cage.”
The differences in technology posed a different hurdle. I posited that the use of subspace holograms had fallen out of favor by the time the Enterprise was built because the holograms were bandwidth hogs on subspace channels and prone to encryption flaws. And while the interfaces on the Shenzhou’s bridge look fancier, the characters who serve on the Enterprise feel proud that their ship is so advanced that it doesn’t need all these gadgets to get the job done.
I have a moment near the end of the book when the Shenzhou lands what the crew thinks is a solid hit on the enemy — and then they watch a phaser beam from the Enterprise’s state-of-the-art weapons carve off part of the enemy’s hull. And the Shenzhou crew is just flabbergasted and in awe. In that moment we see their respect and reverence for the majesty of a Constitution-class starship.
As far as the differences in the crews’ uniforms, there is ample precedent in real life for a military service having multiple approved duty uniforms at any given time, and sometimes special uniforms for elite units, etc. So my retcon for the difference in the uniforms is that most of Starfleet is wearing the “utility blue” jumpsuits of the Shenzhou crew.
But the crews of the Enterprise and other Constitution-class ships are considered elite units, so they’ve been issued special “diplomatic” uniforms to designate their status. What I like about my solution is that it explains the apparent discrepancy while showing proper reverence for the Original Series.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2017/09/interview-david-mack-star-trek-discovery-desperate-hours/
MACK: Once I began in earnest to develop the story that Bryan Fuller had asked for, I struggled at first to think of a situation that would be so dire as to merit the involvement of two Starfleet vessels, especially when one of them was the Enterprise.
I didn’t want to let the Enterprise and its crew overshadow the book’s main cast on the Shenzhou. I shared this conundrum with fellow author John Jackson Miller, and he gave me some good advice. “Pit the two crews against each other,” he said, “and have them both be right.” Once I did that, the shape of the story revealed itself, and it came together very naturally.
The chief concern I had in placing the crews and ships side-by-side in my narrative was that I knew it would invite questions and comparisons. In particular, folks would ask why the technology of an older ship looks more advanced than that of a newer ship. And why did the crews wear different uniforms? I didn’t want to offend fans of the new show or fans of the Original Series, so I knew I couldn’t just pretend that the Enterprise looked like the Shenzhou, or that its crew wore the same uniforms as the ones we see in Discovery.
I addressed the difference in the ships’ aesthetics to a human tendency to want to redesign even the simplest things every few years, whether we need to or not. This confuses Earth’s closest allies, the Vulcans and the Andorians, who can’t understand why humans don’t just pick a style and stick with it. But that’s just the way humans are — always changing fashions, styles, etc.
Captain Pike and the USS Enterprise crew, as seen in “The Cage.”
The differences in technology posed a different hurdle. I posited that the use of subspace holograms had fallen out of favor by the time the Enterprise was built because the holograms were bandwidth hogs on subspace channels and prone to encryption flaws. And while the interfaces on the Shenzhou’s bridge look fancier, the characters who serve on the Enterprise feel proud that their ship is so advanced that it doesn’t need all these gadgets to get the job done.
I have a moment near the end of the book when the Shenzhou lands what the crew thinks is a solid hit on the enemy — and then they watch a phaser beam from the Enterprise’s state-of-the-art weapons carve off part of the enemy’s hull. And the Shenzhou crew is just flabbergasted and in awe. In that moment we see their respect and reverence for the majesty of a Constitution-class starship.
As far as the differences in the crews’ uniforms, there is ample precedent in real life for a military service having multiple approved duty uniforms at any given time, and sometimes special uniforms for elite units, etc. So my retcon for the difference in the uniforms is that most of Starfleet is wearing the “utility blue” jumpsuits of the Shenzhou crew.
But the crews of the Enterprise and other Constitution-class ships are considered elite units, so they’ve been issued special “diplomatic” uniforms to designate their status. What I like about my solution is that it explains the apparent discrepancy while showing proper reverence for the Original Series.
Geordi's parents have a lot of explaining to do.
Why?
Incorrect that's an ugly strawman there, the point was they were not behaving like they possess replicator technology in that episode i.e. talk of famine on a federation colony and racing to a planet because of the promise of synthetic food to cure a famine. If replicators cannot solve all the problems then whey did Kirk race to Leighton? Replicators maintaining an adequate food supply should be just a matter of energy production, planetary scale or otherwise.
Because it's a technology that very specifically didn't exist till sometime during the DS9 era.
While it's mostly a fact of Star Trek not thinking its technology through, I think it's very possible replicators are possible for a ship equivalent to a nuclear powered vessel but the energy requirements for a planet aren't remotely comparable.
For example: They have replicators on Deep Space Nine.
Bajor?
FARMS.
Explain that one.
According to?
Why didn’t Geordi have them until First Contact?
Geordi.
Geordi turned them down because they weren't as good as a VISOR (TNG Loud As A Whisper) Since Detmer has to wear a large device grafted to the side of her head to make her's work, it can't be as advanced as Geordi's implants or even a VISOR.
See above
Actually no. As pointed out above(thanks for the correction), Pulaski said they were not as advanced as his visor. They did exist:
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