Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x04 - "The Butcher's Knife Cares Not for the Lamb's Cry"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Oct 8, 2017.

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  1. ThatChapThere

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  2. shakham

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    Sure, but when the spore drive becomes a major plot point of 4 episodes. When every engineering conversation is obsessing about the spore drive. When the main character spends the whole episode dealing with the spore drive alien creature, and makes the spore drive work. It's hard to think of it as a mechanism to "move the plot along" especially when spore drive is so damn moronic to begin with :\.

    You know the spore drive alien is going to be around for quite a bit longer.

    The M-5 was there for 1 episode, and that was it, and they didn't keep marveling about it episodes later. To be fair that wasn't the nature of TOS.
     
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  3. Succubint

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    A cute little visual easter egg in the episode:

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    A baby Horta? If so, it's a blatant homage to Devil in the Dark. Which makes sense considering the themes and plot of the episode.
     
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  6. Longinus

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    This cargo cult approach to continuity is annoying. The Horta were completely unknown at this time.
     
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  8. Tuskin38

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    Doesn't mean Lorca told the rest of the Federation. This is his personal collection.
     
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  9. Spider

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    I think that's cool as hell. I never noticed that when I saw the show.
     
  10. Kemaiku

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    There's no way a Horta isn't eating through that and half the ship unless it's dead.
     
  11. Longinus

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    That excuse is getting tiresome and kinda undermines the adventures of the TOS crew.
     
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    "to boldly go, where lorca has already been..."
     
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  13. Spider

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    This show has already broken continuity many times, I'm just ignoring it now because there's no real point in doing otherwise.
     
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    Good catch! Didn't see that one.
     
  15. Spider

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    They feed it the mushroom leftovers after Ripper is full.
     
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  16. Tuskin38

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    It doesn't, since no one else knows about it. They're the first ones to reveal it to the rest of the Federation.

    It doesn't undermine it at all.
     
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  17. Kemaiku

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    They love to tunnel, and eat minerals, Discoveries internal bulkheads would be the meal of a lifetime.

    A Tribble I get, he knew to kill and de-bone the Gorn. But a Horta?
     
  18. Spider

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    I've given up on trying to make Discovery make sense in terms of Star Trek continuity, because it doesn't. Just go with the flow. The Horta eats mushrooms and likes them. I'm looking forward to the episode where they have a Klingon/Romulan mixed marriage to yet once again explain the Klingons new looks.
     
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    Fixed that for ya
     
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  20. Lieut. Arex

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    That's a card the show can only play a few times before it wears thin they play it three times in this room. Honestly it seems as if the entire show is built around the idea that "Everything you know is a lie", I don't need snot-nosed brats who aren't fit to empty Coon's pencil sharpeners to come along 50 years later and crap on his work
     
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