„Choose your pain“ has to be a reference to Sybok...
Is he gonna have his second appearance ever?
Is he gonna have his second appearance ever?
There are a lot of terms I've used to describe TNG season one. 'Magical' wasn't on of them...Crap, Lazy, Self-Serving, TOS Season 4 picking right off where the worst of Season 3 left off..Star Trek Phase II done badly...but 'Magical'...nope.Yeah, they really do. There was something magical in that first season. Learning the characters and the universe. My first new Trek. Of course, nostalgia plays a part in it. But, I simply don't care about any of the characters on Discovery. To me, they've done a terrible job of selling the characters as anything other than chess pieces to move the plot from point A to point B.
Add into that, they are simply going where Star Trek has already been. It has been dull to an extreme level.
It's Only a Paper Mushroom
Take me Out to the Mushroom
Looking for Mushrooms in All the Wrong Places
I enjoyed the first seasons of TNG and Enterprise a heck of a lot more than Discovery, thus far.
You're kidding, right? The Naked Now? Code of Honor? OMFG.
Human characters who resemble real jerks behaving like complete dicks to each other. They have to be the most unlikeable and unsympathetic crew we’ve ever seen in Star Trek. The worst episode of TOS or TNG at least had in it characters with empathy and charisma.
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YAY! - Planet Canada....ooops, wrong franchise.![]()
The point being that what is now being defended as the sacred unbreakable canon was once the hated usurper which would never be accepted.I love it when people try to defend DSC by making fun of Trekkies who were complaining about TNG back then in 1987-88...
...and then the same people try to defend DSC by saying that TNG sucked ass back in 1987-88!!!
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I love it when people try to defend DSC by making fun of Trekkies who were complaining about TNG back then in 1987-88...
...and then the same people try to defend DSC by saying that TNG sucked ass back in 1987-88!!!
You're kidding, right? The Naked Now? Code of Honor? OMFG.
Human characters who resemble real jerks behaving like complete dicks to each other. They have to be the most unlikeable and unsympathetic crew we’ve ever seen in Star Trek. The worst episode of TOS or TNG at least had in it characters with empathy and charisma.
Like Plato's Stepchildren? LOL
That's symptomatic of the problem, actually, focusing so much on setting up this new Enterprise that the stories fell by the wayside.
I've noticed this too, the amount of anti-Voyager and anti-Enterprise references have increased. That's not much in the way of showing how good Discovery is, is it?I love it when people try to defend DSC by making fun of Trekkies who were complaining about TNG back then in 1987-88...
...and then the same people try to defend DSC by saying that TNG sucked ass back in 1987-88!!!
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Exactly my critic about DSC so far...
I love it when people try to defend DSC by making fun of Trekkies who were complaining about TNG back then in 1987-88...
...and then the same people try to defend DSC by saying that TNG sucked ass back in 1987-88!!!
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He also said that the first season of Discovery was the best first season of any Trek show ever.![]()
A bold statement by Mr Mack indeed Ricky! He may be right...He may be wrong...Unlike any of us he has read 'all' the scripts in the writers room so I guess his opinion has more validity at this stage than all of us making a judgement on a show that has only screened 4 eps! He is also a great Trek writer so that works in his favour with me! But maybe he hates what they have done with those scripts now? I doubt it! Discovery is certainly not my fav first season yet - after- and I say again - 4eps! And I still have some concerns about the show - But I'd rather watch it's first four eps than the entire Next Gen's first season. and most of Voyagers and Enterprises First! Having said yet, no Trek, in my opinion, in it's first season, has aired an ep better than 'Duet' yet,...And that season of DS9 was it's weakest by far!Wow. Encounter at Farpoint, The Naked Now, Code Of Honor and the Last Outpost really beat 1-4 of Discovery for you?
You're comparing episodic TV with serialized TV.
Actually, Discovery is lacking compared to modern dramas. Like The Handmaid's Tale, Mr. Robot, The Man in the High Castle, Mad Men, House of Cards.
Um, ok. That's all you have to say..."it's lacking" and we're 4 episodes in and you can't cite anything else?
I've went over where I think the show has failed thus far, in more than one post. You can go read those if you need more.![]()
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