Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x04 - "The Butcher's Knife Cares Not for the Lamb's Cry"

[Lakenheath 72]

I think the traffic about the telescope is like the canary in the coal mine. There were serious plot issues with the latest episode. Here is the latest review, from Trekyards:

removed video - it was not well-received

Other points were raised, like the Discovery not sticking around to ensure the colony was safe and secured.

 

[Nyotarules]

All this traffic about a telescope? Seriously, who the fuck cares?

And yet you responded....

 

[BillJ]

I think the traffic about the telescope is like the canary in the coal mine. There were serious plot issues with the latest episode. Here is the latest review, from Trekyards:

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Other points were raised, like the Discovery not sticking around to ensure the colony was safe and secured.

I like and trust the opinions of the people here.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

I like and trust the opinions of the people here.

Trekyards, for me, is the last place I go any more for anything Star Trek related. It's more cringe-worthy than DSC's first 2 episodes.

 

[Prax]

Wow, this thread moves fast. This joke may have lost it's relevance, but...

 

[137th Gebirg]

And yet you responded....

Yep, because this kind of thing is usually why non-fans think we're all idiots.

 

[Cyrus]

I will be thrilled If they use the augment virus on the Klingons. It will help Discovery build a cannon bridge between ENT and TOS. Also I prefer english speaking TOS style Klingons to what we have got so far.

 

[The Shrike]

I think the traffic about the telescope is like the canary in the coal mine. There were serious plot issues with the latest episode. Here is the latest review, from Trekyards:

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Other points were raised, like the Discovery not sticking around to ensure the colony was safe and secured.

From a logical, military perspective, that made perfect sense. The Discovery has a rare tactical advantage that they absolutely have to keep secret. If the Discovery hung around after their military strike, knowledge of their ship would make it's way to the Klingons, which would jeopardize the greater war. Right now, all the Klingons know, is their ships were mysteriously eviscerated. The longer they can keep the Klingons in the dark about their capabilities, the better.

 

[SJA]

And yet you responded....

You pick a spider out the bath, not because you value it's presence, but because it's a nuisance that is impeding your intended purpose...

 

[Nyotarules]

Yep, because this kind of thing is usually why non-fans think we're all idiots.

We are idiots, own your fanaticism!

 

[The Shrike]

You pick a spider out the bath, not because you value it's presence, but because it's a nuisance that is impeding your intended purpose...

I pick them out of the bath because I don't want them to drown.

 

[BillJ]

Yep, because this kind of thing is usually why non-fans think we're all idiots.

I really don't care what non-fans think of me.

 

[SJA]

I pick them out of the bath because I don't want them to drown.

Me too!

 

[Kor]

I still find it odd that an antique optical telescope could let them see something that the ship's equipment could not.

Kor

 

[BillJ]

I still find it odd that an antique optical telescope could let them see something that the ship's equipment could not.

I guess the idea is something that is providing electronic interference wouldn't do the same to the naked eye.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

For myself, I find it easier to hear reviews on YouTube than reading through pages of comments. I do not find the opinons here as useful as others do. It is hard for me to follow the thread of the discussion.

I will not post videos of reviews that I find fascinating here again.

 

[137th Gebirg]

I really don't care what non-fans think of me.

For the most part, neither do I. However, if someone at work happens to be a non-fan, who also happens to be someone above you in your chain of command, and that person discovers you're a fan by some small decoration in your cube or whatnot, and that person instantly and permanently judges you based on that one little thing, and based on the generally-accepted perception that we're all a bunch of dysfunctional cloistered antisocial geeks, it has the unfortunate side-effect of not being taken seriously, which can tend to cause issues at critical times needlessly. It is an unpleasant experience. Learned that hard lesson early on in my career, which is why I need to read the room before putting up anything that could be considered genre-specific, lest it paint me in an unfavorable light to management as someone not to be taken seriously. It's one thing not to care about such things in the outside world. Things always change when maintaining a livelihood is at stake.

 

[BillJ]

For the most part, neither do I. However, if someone at work happens to be a non-fan, who also happens to be someone above you in your chain of command, and that person discovers you're a fan by some small decoration in your cube or whatnot, and that person instantly and permanently judges you based on that one little thing, and based on the generally-accepted perception that we're all a bunch of dysfunctional cloistered antisocial geeks, it has the unfortunate side-effect of not being taken seriously, which can tend to cause issues at critical times. It is an unpleasant experience. Learned that hard lesson early on in my career, which is why I need to read the room before putting up anything that could be considered genre-specific, lest it paint me in an unfavorable light to management as someone not to be taken seriously. It's one thing not to care about such things in the outside world. Things always change when maintaining a livelihood is at stake.

When I worked in Corporate America, my love of Star Trek never held me back. My work spoke for itself, I always had a Mr. Scott on my desk and a sci-fi novel there too. Never affected me in a negative manner. And I worked in a place where most people didn't watch sci-fi.

 

[Prax]

You wouldn't really be able to see much of any...of the things they see in Star Trek with the naked eye.

There wouldn't be color. Apparently you can't, or hardly can see stars in space, and that their light is greatly increased by/through the earths atmosphere. You sure as heck can't see them on a red eye.

I'm super jealous of not only captain's telescope, but the case for it. And I've been keeping mine in a duffle bag all this time like a sucker.

I want every case to be like that. Rifle, trombone, pool stick, cordless drill...I can think of many more.

 

[137th Gebirg]

When I worked in Corporate America, my love of Star Trek never held me back. My work spoke for itself, I always had a Mr. Scott on my desk and a sci-fi novel there too. Never affected me in a negative manner. And I worked in a place where most people didn't watch sci-fi.

It's a lot more acceptable than it used to be, these days, yes. I've personally been comfortable for years openly expressing my geekdom and, like you, my work speaks for itself, so if anyone does have an issue with it, it's more easily overlooked.

All it takes is one person of power, though...usually some near-retirement Baby Boomer dinosaur manager, still living in a world where anything outside the IBM or Perot Systems business mentality is considered unprofessional and to be stamped out. You'd be surprised how many of those guys are still slithering around out there, waiting for their pensions to come to term and making everyone else's lives miserable around them. I've been pretty fortunate not to have to deal with many of those in recent years, but they are out there still.