Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x04 - "The Butcher's Knife Cares Not for the Lamb's Cry"

[Jadeb]

Making use of Saru's death sense in dealing with threats is just as plausible as using Troi's empathic abilities on the bridge.

Kor

I think it would be a lot easier to buy if they'd said he could detect hostility and aggression -- things happening in real time, like Troi did -- rather than saying he can foretell the future about something so specific. Talking about death like it's riding in on a pale horse seems dumb.

If they're going to suggest Saru has supernatural powers, I'd rather they give a supernatural explanation instead of trying to dress it up In pseudo-scientific terms.

 

[The Rock]

Do you all think that, for fun, the crew of the USS Discovery likes to get in their spacesuits and sit on the saucer while it spins around as a way to have fun and relieve stress?

 

[Amaris]

By the way, loved the apocalypic imagery in the opening scene, which turned out to be an extreme zoom-in on Burnham's uniform being replicated

The weird thing is (for me, anyway) that I knew I was looking at something close up. I thought "this is something being fabricated at the microscopic level." When it pulled back a little, it resembled the color of a uniform, and so I figured we were getting to see it up close. I rather liked it.

 

[Jadeb]

Do you all think that, for fun, the crew of the USS Discovery likes to get in their spacesuits and sit on the saucer while it spins around as a way to have fun and relieve stress?

Ever been on a Gravitron carnival ride? Maybe the inside of the saucer is like that.

 

[cultcross]

If they're going to suggest Saru has supernatural powers

They haven't. Saru has a heightened survival instinct because he is a prey species. He senses danger that others miss - they went over it in interviews. He has 'threat ganglia' not a supernatural connection to the grim reaper.

 

[BillJ]

They haven't. Saru has a heightened survival instinct because he is a prey species. He senses danger that others miss - they went over it in interviews.

But not everyone follows the interviews.

 

[Kor]

So if something or someone is intending to just brutally beat him to within a centimeter of life, but not kill him, then the threat ganglia should have no reaction at all because he only senses the coming of death.

Kor

 

[cultcross]

But not everyone follows the interviews.

Well it was also in dialogue in episode one

 

[KirkusOveractus]

So if something or someone is intending to just brutally beat him to within a centimeter of life, but not kill him, then the threat ganglia should have no reaction at all because he only senses the coming of death.

Kor

Was he then too far away from Landry?

 

[Kor]

Was he then too far away from Landry?

Maybe he only senses the threat if he would be directly affected by it.

Kor

 

[BillJ]

Well it was also in dialogue in episode one

They were vague about how he was sensing it. If he had never had any contact with Klingons, then I'm not sure how exactly he was sensing death.

But then it changed, obviously, to anything that disturbs him because of his response to when Burnham stayed behind, even though he didn't know anything about it. So that would indicate some kind of telepathy/empathy.

 

[Jadeb]

They haven't. Saru has a heightened survival instinct because he is a prey species. He senses danger that others miss - they went over it in interviews. He has 'threat ganglia' not a supernatural connection to the grim reaper.

The way you put it makes way more sense than the way the show did: “My people were biologically determined for one purpose alone: to sense the coming of death. I sense it coming now."

Death is an event. It doesn't "come" anymore than a flat tire comes for you.

And it's not as though everyone else on the ship is unaware they're in danger when he drops that line. But maybe Saru is just the dramatic sort.

 

[CardassianAssassin]

ST: Enterprise for much of the 4 seasons resorted to plots of the Enterprise fighting every race that Berman can shoehorn in to inject drama into a series that had nothing to say. Voyager, as mediocre as that show was (imo) was about being a long way from home...

With only 4 episodes in, with exception to Cpt Lorca, the characters of Discovery come across somewhat like they are trapped by a war they did not want or feel suited to take part of. With the sense that defeat was around the corner, they are fighting their own selves, with each other, and yet they all have their own ambitions, ideas and struggles in the backdrop of deep space where only their posterity in TOS/TNG were able to explore and impress their ideas on without having to routinely draw blood.

Can you imagine the likes of Spock, Lt Barclay or Wesley Crusher being able to spend years indulging in science and enlightenment with the threat of a Bat'leth up their backside at a moments notice?


But yes you are indeed correct, the Enterprise crew are a nicer bunch ... what was I thinking ? ...

Shale-talk! That’s what you’re speaking!

 

[Gonzo]

Do you all think that, for fun, the crew of the USS Discovery likes to get in their spacesuits and sit on the saucer while it spins around as a way to have fun and relieve stress?

The perfect roller disco location.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

The perfect roller disco location.

I'm picturing a photoshop done with a Sit N Spin as the saucer section.

 

[Gonzo]

I'm picturing a photoshop done with a Sit N Spin as the saucer section.

Or use the weapon pods on the saucer as slots for waltzer carriages, they wouldn't have to be spun by hand as the weapon mounts are motorized to turn for firing.

 

[cultcross]

The way you put it makes way more sense than the way the show did: “My people were biologically determined for one purpose alone: to sense the coming of death. I sense it coming now."

Death is an event. It doesn't "come" anymore than a flat tire comes for you.

And it's not as though everyone else on the ship is unaware they're in danger when he drops that line. But maybe Saru is just the dramatic sort.

Yeah it's just a dramatic way of saying it. "Coming of death" i.e. threat. Dialogue is often not written as literal - "There's coffee in that nebula" doesn't mean exactly what it says.

 

[Cake]

Asian women don't have a high survival rate on DIS. First they made such a big thing out of having cast Michelle Yeoh only to kill her off in the second episode and now Landry died an idiot's death.

When I think back to some of the complains before DIS started of those who had problems with women in commanding positions, they at least should be happy now. The only significant female characters left on the Federation side are no rank Burnham and insecure cadet Tilly, both outranked by all the guys on the show. And on the Klingon side L'Rell prefers to be a woman scheming in the background instead of being in the leader position. That might be smart, but isn't particular ambitious.

 

[Gonzo]

I'm picturing a photoshop done with a Sit N Spin as the saucer section.

Just realised that sit n spin is the American version of the waltzers here in the UK, that can be on the middle ring and the outside ring can be the roller disco.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Just realised that sit n spin is the American version of the waltzers here in the UK, that can be on the middle ring and the outside ring can be the roller disco.

Make the sphere in the center a mirror ball and you have a deal!