That must have been a different episode. In Battle at the Binary Stars, she switches her phaser in an instant and fires at the guy stabbing her Captain. The whole thing lasts a second or two at most. What you describe just didn't happen.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x04 - "The Butcher's Knife Cares Not for the Lamb's Cry"
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If you're unwilling to take the risk of the mission, why go in the first place? How else were they going to capture him alive? Hug him?
Really? she looked collected enough to delivery a killshot near the heart.
But then setting it to kill at all on *her* mission that she convinced her captain to go on means it's all on her anyway, she got her captain killed and ruined her own mission, causing a war.
I don't know if any of you read the AV Club but their Star Trek reviewer is pretty damn good. Here's his review:
https://www.avclub.com/a-cluttered-star-trek-discovery-fails-to-make-its-case-1819269883
https://www.avclub.com/a-cluttered-star-trek-discovery-fails-to-make-its-case-1819269883
In a split second she flipped her phaser to kill and took a quick shot at close range. Yes, she saw T'Kuvma run Georgiou through and MADE a decision to kill, but it was a snap/reactive/100% emotional one. Not something she gave a lot of thought to.
All these minor bridge characters that get a stray line or two and no development had me thinking of TOS again -- a show that's interested in it's three designated leads, and everyone else is just there to populate the background. I want this crew fleshed out, I want an ensemble.
Seriously, who cares? When I don't even like or care about the main cast and crew I'm not gonna care about non-speaking crewmember #2 and random Male Model #4.
I mostly agree with this, but the Delta Quadrant was just another portion of the galaxy. There was no good reason to make life any more "strange" there than in the Alpha quadrant. Where the series failed, IMHO is that it neither held to its initial premise (divided crew with no hope of resupply) or bothered to craft most of its stories around the actual cast of characters on the ship.
Maybe my copy ran slower, but it looked more calculated than that.
...That's the Power of Love!
I've been thinking about the equinox since last week.
They probably weren't planning on him stabbing Georgiou in the chest. That rather heightened the immediate importance of stopping power, hence the kill setting.
War isn't like a simulation, or the perfectly executed mission - the show includes that very point. Burnham is great at theoretical plans, but made mistakes when there was blood.
I've been underwhelmed since they got to Discovery. The pilot, prologue, whatever they call it was more interesting for me. This episode has some good parts. Michael and the creature. Michael and the will. The battle simulation.
The security chief went redline too fast. And the way she went out makes her look stupid. Can't recall if this was before or after the distress call. I'll have to watch the episode again. Maybe she was acting emotionally after the distress call. But she should have known better.
The distress call did not tug at me that much. Perhaps its because you can read or watch the news and see something far worse virtually every day.
The saucer turning is dumb. But so is the spore drive. Putting Ripper in the bright control room is dumb. They know by that point it prefers low light. Why do anything to agitate it? My guess is they'll write off the spore drive, because they cannot justify enslaving creatures like Ripper to make it work.
So far, Discovery is not offering me much hope for the future. And Star Trek has always endeavored to show us a better future. Not a dystopian one. Even though it took place during the Vietnam war and battle for Civil Rights, it still offered a bright future. Next Gen continued that. As did Voyager and Enterprise S1, 2 and 4. DS9 had a lot of war. But it wasn't every episode. And so far, the war has played prominently on Discovery. In a way, I wish they would have spent a season building up the series on Shizhou. At least its loss and the Captain's would have had more impact on the audience.
The security chief went redline too fast. And the way she went out makes her look stupid. Can't recall if this was before or after the distress call. I'll have to watch the episode again. Maybe she was acting emotionally after the distress call. But she should have known better.
The distress call did not tug at me that much. Perhaps its because you can read or watch the news and see something far worse virtually every day.
The saucer turning is dumb. But so is the spore drive. Putting Ripper in the bright control room is dumb. They know by that point it prefers low light. Why do anything to agitate it? My guess is they'll write off the spore drive, because they cannot justify enslaving creatures like Ripper to make it work.
So far, Discovery is not offering me much hope for the future. And Star Trek has always endeavored to show us a better future. Not a dystopian one. Even though it took place during the Vietnam war and battle for Civil Rights, it still offered a bright future. Next Gen continued that. As did Voyager and Enterprise S1, 2 and 4. DS9 had a lot of war. But it wasn't every episode. And so far, the war has played prominently on Discovery. In a way, I wish they would have spent a season building up the series on Shizhou. At least its loss and the Captain's would have had more impact on the audience.
Ed Mercer said: ↑ it's the Trek that America deserves.
Anyway,
1. Hello, Ed Mercer, non-Americans watching, here.
2. What does America deserve? From the distance, i'm not sure I get it. Is this about America having finally fallen out of love with itself?
I think no one is taking the bait because it's either too obvious or they think you're in earnest and ignoring you.Agreed! It's a fantastic Star Trek series!
Anyway,
1. Hello, Ed Mercer, non-Americans watching, here.
2. What does America deserve? From the distance, i'm not sure I get it. Is this about America having finally fallen out of love with itself?
I think the best scene of the episode was the battle simulation. That was great. I like Lorca, and I hope he's somewhat redeemable.
Wait... what?
One thing I would like to applaud this show for getting right: how the women are dressed.
In every Trek so far, there have been blatant attempts at sex appeal and how the women are dressed. Especially the hotties.
On TOS all the female crew were in short skirts. Ah, look at the progress we have made. At least it was uniform. In TNG Troi gets an exemption to wear tight fitting suits & low cut dresses. DS9 was the best of the bunch. Though Kira's unis were pretty form fitting at least they were like the other Bajorans'. Kes & Seven in VOY and T'Pal in Enterprise was blatant.
I am glad that is gone.
In every Trek so far, there have been blatant attempts at sex appeal and how the women are dressed. Especially the hotties.
On TOS all the female crew were in short skirts. Ah, look at the progress we have made. At least it was uniform. In TNG Troi gets an exemption to wear tight fitting suits & low cut dresses. DS9 was the best of the bunch. Though Kira's unis were pretty form fitting at least they were like the other Bajorans'. Kes & Seven in VOY and T'Pal in Enterprise was blatant.
I am glad that is gone.
So, having only read the first few pages of this thread... I just don't get the shock and surprise about the Klingons eating Georgiou, as if this is something that just came out of the blue.
Previous Trek had solid references to Klingons feasting on the heart of a vanquished enemy. They are savage and bloodthirsty warriors, after all. Even human history has similar examples.
This show seems to be getting lots of criticism for the exact same things that already happened before in Trek but nobody ever complained about. What's the deal?
Kor
Previous Trek had solid references to Klingons feasting on the heart of a vanquished enemy. They are savage and bloodthirsty warriors, after all. Even human history has similar examples.
This show seems to be getting lots of criticism for the exact same things that already happened before in Trek but nobody ever complained about. What's the deal?
Kor
It's funny how the best scenes in every episode are invariably the most "Trek." Almost as if the past series developed a formula which worked pretty well.
Actually that's a good point. The era of the catsuit has not returned and we shall rejoice at its passing. I would raise a glass, but this catsuit is a little restrictive.
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