Ok I expressed wrong, it's not a nod, but I think they are moving in that direction with the story. Captain that can do whatever it can, by all means do everything to win the war regardless of starfleet regulations etc.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x03 - "Context is for Kings"
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I like Lorca a lot. I certainly hope he is not going to be the Ned Stark of Discovery.
It's 1031 because Fuller loves Halloween. That's it.
Which I hope means we get a Halloween episode
If that's the case, I hope the Halloween episode is an anthology of three separate stories!
*Lorca pulls out a terrarium full of salamanders*
"What are those?"
"The last people who doubted me, Michael."
"How?"
"The Mushrooms, Michael. The mushrooms."
"....oooookay."
A few quick caps of when Princess Toadstool was in 'Quantum Sporestream':
^ Unidentified planet with cool ruins
^ Unidentified planet with Preserver monolith
^ Unidentified planet resembling Vulcan a little
^ Unidentified planet, possibly a Federation colony/starbase
^ Possibly Janus VI mining colony
For comparison:
(Actually someone has already put that last one on Memory Alpha, do they know something we don't?)
^ Unidentified planet with cool ruins
^ Unidentified planet with Preserver monolith
^ Unidentified planet resembling Vulcan a little
^ Unidentified planet, possibly a Federation colony/starbase
^ Possibly Janus VI mining colony
For comparison:
(Actually someone has already put that last one on Memory Alpha, do they know something we don't?)
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Super mysterious and ominous secret evil government clandestine agency is one of the most overused tropes in all of cinema. "Edgy" is not the adjective I'd use.
Yeah this starship may live a bit more on the edge, but it's clear that optimistic spirit we saw expressed so strongly by Burnham and Georgiou at the start of the first episode is still something these characters believe in.
And of course it's not like we didn't see officers be rude or dickish on TOS at times. Lt Stiles' hostile attitude towards Spock in Balance of Terror is one that immediately comes to mind--and that was on the bridge right in front of the captain!
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My thoughts on this episode, then.
The Good
The Discovery herself - I was so much more sold on the ship itself seeing it "in the flesh" with proper effects and the tight camera angles. Loved it.
The space shots are still brilliant, I love this aspect of the show, how the uniform starfield is gone and replaced by those lovely views.
Lorca! I really liked this character, a truly different Starfleet Captain. Lots to pick apart there, what is his motivation? What are his true morals and goals? It's he the Captain of a science ship at war, as he tries to tell Burnham, or is he a warmonger on a science vessel like Stamets seems to think? Jason Isaacs did a great performance, too.
The sets - in particular the mess hall and ready room are lovely sets, detailed just enough, with some callbacks to TOS (such as the food slots and the colourful data minidiscs) and some neat designs technology wise, combining buttons and hi tech holoscreens.
The mushroom story - I'm quite taken by this aspect of the story, it's much more interesting than the Klingons arc. Yes it's nonsense, but lots of Trek tech is total nonsense so that doesn't bother me much. I like the peacetime applications of it and the fact it isn't a weapon or an ancient something-or-other to find á la SG-1.
Lorca's attitude to Burnham's past. He, in-universe, had many of the same observations that we had here about Burnham's actual culpability and the ambiguity of whether she was actually right to do what she did. That's a level of grey which Star Trek has struggled with in the past, and it's nice to see that we are getting something more complex.
Saru and Burnham's relationship continues to be a highlight.
Dialogue was improved. Not great, but better.
Cadet Tilly is finally a cadet who actually acts like a new recruit instead of a genius or a twat. Now we just need an Admiral of whom I could say the same
The Bad
The shoot em up on the Glenn was pretty generic, and the giant mole thing was a pretty standard jump scare monster. I was glad this sequence was over quickly.
Landry. Ugh. A horrid cliché of a character. I hope they give her some depth or she dies horribly and quickly. Calling prisoners 'garbage' and 'animals' is a bad caricature which is outdated by today's standards, let alone Starfleet's.
Stamets didn't get much to do but complain and deliver exposition. I'd like to see him have a bit more to sink his acting into, especially since he is bound to feature heavily in the arc.
Overall
Enjoyed this more than the pilot, considerably more of interest and more depth to the story and characters. Really liked Lorca, Burnham, Saru and Tilly. Needed a stronger episodic story, but I liked this one. 8/10.
The Good
The Discovery herself - I was so much more sold on the ship itself seeing it "in the flesh" with proper effects and the tight camera angles. Loved it.
The space shots are still brilliant, I love this aspect of the show, how the uniform starfield is gone and replaced by those lovely views.
Lorca! I really liked this character, a truly different Starfleet Captain. Lots to pick apart there, what is his motivation? What are his true morals and goals? It's he the Captain of a science ship at war, as he tries to tell Burnham, or is he a warmonger on a science vessel like Stamets seems to think? Jason Isaacs did a great performance, too.
The sets - in particular the mess hall and ready room are lovely sets, detailed just enough, with some callbacks to TOS (such as the food slots and the colourful data minidiscs) and some neat designs technology wise, combining buttons and hi tech holoscreens.
The mushroom story - I'm quite taken by this aspect of the story, it's much more interesting than the Klingons arc. Yes it's nonsense, but lots of Trek tech is total nonsense so that doesn't bother me much. I like the peacetime applications of it and the fact it isn't a weapon or an ancient something-or-other to find á la SG-1.
Lorca's attitude to Burnham's past. He, in-universe, had many of the same observations that we had here about Burnham's actual culpability and the ambiguity of whether she was actually right to do what she did. That's a level of grey which Star Trek has struggled with in the past, and it's nice to see that we are getting something more complex.
Saru and Burnham's relationship continues to be a highlight.
Dialogue was improved. Not great, but better.
Cadet Tilly is finally a cadet who actually acts like a new recruit instead of a genius or a twat. Now we just need an Admiral of whom I could say the same
The Bad
The shoot em up on the Glenn was pretty generic, and the giant mole thing was a pretty standard jump scare monster. I was glad this sequence was over quickly.
Landry. Ugh. A horrid cliché of a character. I hope they give her some depth or she dies horribly and quickly. Calling prisoners 'garbage' and 'animals' is a bad caricature which is outdated by today's standards, let alone Starfleet's.
Stamets didn't get much to do but complain and deliver exposition. I'd like to see him have a bit more to sink his acting into, especially since he is bound to feature heavily in the arc.
Overall
Enjoyed this more than the pilot, considerably more of interest and more depth to the story and characters. Really liked Lorca, Burnham, Saru and Tilly. Needed a stronger episodic story, but I liked this one. 8/10.
I didn't saying anything about Burnham being liked (or the need for her to be likeable.)
I've always rather felt we got this via Admiral Ross in DS9. He was written a bit blandly overall, but he was a decent dude.
A few quick caps of when Princess Toadstool was in 'Quantum Sporestream':
^ Unidentified planet, possibly a Federation colony/starbase
This is pretty close to Starbase 11. Even has the construction things on the left side.
so from a production viewpoint did they really make their Act Two 20 minutes? they could've just you know broke that up to make it their act two and three and make their act three act four.
I think he means stuff like "The Fresh Prince, In Living Color, TNG, B5" I do think T.V. in General had a brighter color palette then, practically the 1st half of the 90's was neon green with those little squiggly lightning bolt things all over it.
That's awesome. Congrats!
Are you going to name your son after one of the characters (e.g. Lorca)?
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