I like the idea, and they could have even used it to help clear a little of a path for the EVA suit, but given the density of the debris field, I just don't see it happening. You have hundreds of objects coming in at different speeds, different directions, different masses and densities. I don't think phasers and tractor beams are going to do it (transporters were only used for site-to-site starting in TNG, so they would have to beam debris aboard and then back out again, not really feasible with any large masses; plus there has got to be an upper limit for mass/energy on a transportation).
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x02 - "Battle at the Binary Stars"
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I like the idea, and they could have even used it to help clear a little of a path for the EVA suit, but given the density of the debris field, I just don't see it happening. You have hundreds of objects coming in at different speeds, different directions, different masses and densities. I don't think phasers and tractor beams are going to do it (transporters were only used for site-to-site starting in TNG, so they would have to beam debris aboard and then back out again, not really feasible with any large masses; plus there has got to be an upper limit for mass/energy on a transportation).
I wondered that! If we ever go to his home planet or anything, that's going to be a tough casting session!
I was having the same thought, although there are probably a few people who are big enough Trekkies they'll still pay for it even if they hate it.
They could always just retcon it so that is just people with a strong connection. How specific were they about the whole lovers only part?
Hmm, if it's just do to a mind meld and sharing a Katra does that mean Spock and McCoy could do this after Search for Spock?
I totally forgot about that.
They could always just retcon it so that is just people with a strong connection. How specific were they about the whole lovers only part?
Hmm, if it's just do to a mind meld and sharing a Katra does that mean Spock and McCoy could do this after Search for Spock?
Works for me.
3. When you are trying to convince someone you are correct on a matter of grave importance, you underscore why you specifically have special insight on the topic at hand, even if it's information they already have. But if they're discounting what you're saying, they need a more forceful reminder of why you should be listened to
(I mean I agree with you that it's definitely a pilot-y speech, but I do think Doug Jones sold it -- the performance fixed the writing for me -- I got chills)
I'm glad someone else thought it! Most of my career was in casting, so it's always the first place my mind goes.
I was also wondering: did they audition the Klingons speaking in Klingon?!?
Casting this show would be a tough job.
*hopes he's not “one of them” to @Sakonna*
You are definitely not one of them.
The bond between parent and child is pretty damn strong.
What did he say when he was trying to get Spock back?
"Forgive me, T'Lar. My logic is uncertain where my son is concerned."
Son, daughter, no difference, so you might as well give her a boy name.
T'Lar?
So, definitely not T'Pau?
Cool, cool.
PS
It's obvious that the Klingon attack on Vulcan, was from time Travelers targeting Burnham, since the Klingons (of that era) were cool with the Vulcans after being helloed so often.
What did he say when he was trying to get Spock back?
"Forgive me, T'Lar. My logic is uncertain where my son is concerned."
Son, daughter, no difference, so you might as well give her a boy name.
T'Lar?
So, definitely not T'Pau?
Cool, cool.
PS
It's obvious that the Klingon attack on Vulcan, was from time Travelers targeting Burnham, since the Klingons (of that era) were cool with the Vulcans after being helloed so often.
I presume so. I was actually most surprised by Chris Obi's character death in the whole episode. While I think most of us guessed Yeoh's character was a short lived one, they had really played up Obi's as being the main villain. I guess this answers the questions we had early on about the sheer number of Klingons being cast.
What if the reason all those Klingons spoke in slow mumbles is because they were all extremely drunk? (This is barely a joke, I imagine them drinking hard right before a battle.)
Isuspect both Georgiou and T'Kumva will live on through flashbacks. This is the most flashbacky Star Trek yet.
Not to mention, navigational deflectors which literally do that very job.
I remember shortly after production started, seeing some social media update from Chris Obi to the effect of: "back in London, that was fun!" I speculated at the time about unusual production schedules, wondering if they started by block shooting all the Klingon stuff before moving on to the rest of it. Actual explanation was much simpler.
Here's what I'm wondering: who the hell plays Voq? Was he credited? Unless I'm mistaken, there was no casting announcement for that character? I kept thinking he was about to die after every line. "He can't be important, there was no casting announcement for him." Whereas multiple characters that are already dead did have the full press "so-and-so has been cast as" treatment.
If Voq is hugely important and was directly excluded from the cast announcements to manipulate audience expectation... that's awesome, and nicely played, show.
Well, I agree with you totally! On the show, I loved it also. Saru was great, I can't believe how well that expository prey-species backstory dialogue played. (Though I did keep thinking: damn, Doug Jones is such a unique physicality, this is going to be tough on the casting people if we someday need more Kelpian characters that fit with his look)
I haven't perceived the consensus to be as negative, though... maybe I am employing my scrolling finger more aggressively. I am starting to see one great plus to having to pay for CBSAA -- those that really hate it will not pay and thus not be able to post overly negative rants.
Yesss!
In my two-post review I forgot to mention: Saru was 100% fine!
All my fears about him "sensing" death in a super-natural way were proven to be completely wrong. Instead he simply was that fearful type of "prey" being. And Doug Jones fucking NAILED it!
His chemistry with both Gergiou and Burnham was great. When I first saw images of him, I thought the make-up was pretty regular VOY-stuff. But he immediately convinced me as a character, and now I want to learn more about him, and his people!
My biggest misgivings about the show are indeed the klingon storyline and the war arc. I hate them. But damn do I want to go out on further adventures with Burnham, Saru and our new Federation ship! Going with them on strange new planets, meet new lifeforms and have adventures with them, and do the whole Star Trek exploring stuff.
That's where I'm "mixed". Love some things, hate others. The characters, and Saru especially, are clearly in the 'love'-column!
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To be perfectly honest, I lost track of the Klingons in casting. Their heavy make-up makes them hard to distinguish and they all have those apostrophe filled names I love so much.
Chief Petty Officer, then, based on history.
I think what Sarek did was MORE than just a Mindmeld as it was done right after the Klingon attack (at least that's how it appeared) and Micheal was gravely innjured and was ,most likely dying; so somehow Sarek infused part of his Katra into her to 'bring her back'.
^^^
And IDK - it's no more ridiculous then other aspects of Vulcan Katra related mysticism - like Spock putting a full copy of his Mind into McCoy in ST:::TWoK (which was the first time the 'katra' was even mentioned in Star Trek); or Captain Archer getting Surak's mind via his Katra in ENT - "Kishara".
Yeah, they handled that pretty well. T'Kuvma's death came as a surprise. In the credits he is listed as “Javid Iqbal”. Although I'm not able to really find that actor on the web. Interesting.
Actually, navigational deflectors haven't been precisely defined in canon. But, based on Trek tech manuals they focus on hydrogen and other microparticles and can also "move aside larger" objects that present a collision danger. But it isn't clear how big of an object is "larger". Can they move a multi-million ton asteroid? From how far away?
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