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Dark Matter Season 3

Four actually making it through the episode was a surprise, it will be interesting to see where they go with him now.
I can't remember, did Teku make it out of the battle?
It was fun seeing Wexler again, I hope he sticks around.
I really doubt that Six is dead since we didn't actually see him on the ship when the bomb went off.
Hmm, so Two has been possessed since the episode that introduced the aliens? Were there any obvious gaps where we didn't see her where it could have happened.
Hopefully her possession won't get dragged out forever. A few episodes be OK, but I'd prefer it not drag on through the whole season, or even half season.
I'm curious to see exactly how the conflict with the aliens will play out since some of them appear to have infiltrated the corporations.
 
Four actually making it through the episode was a surprise, it will be interesting to see where they go with him now.

I never expected them to actually kill him off. If he'd stayed the emperor and the big bad, then I could've seen his storyline ending in a fight to the death with the rest of the main cast, though probably not until the series finale. But once he was deposed and on the run, I knew it would be the beginning of an arc leading him back to the crew, because he no longer posed a meaningful threat. They wouldn't have ended his story in such an anticlimactic way, defeated by a coup rather than by the protagonists.

Plus I'm still somewhat convinced that the main reason they killed One and Devin off was because the actors were less than impressive. Alex Mallari, Jr. is a strong enough actor that they wouldn't have a motive to get rid of him.


I can't remember, did Teku make it out of the battle?

He wasn't explicitly killed off, so he'll probably come out alive. It doesn't seem like they're done with his storyline yet, although they do have a tendency to abandon things abruptly. In any case, I really like Andrew Moodie in the role, so I hope he returns.

It was fun seeing Wexler again, I hope he sticks around.

The actor is kind of entertaining, but it's hard for me to see Wexler as a "fun" character considering that his original incarnation was portrayed as a borderline sexual predator, harassing Two and threatening Five with rape. I suppose the writers could claim that this alternate version is less of a sadistic creep, but that would be inconsistent with how the alternate universe was portrayed, as essentially identical except for events unfolding slightly differently.


I really doubt that Six is dead since we didn't actually see him on the ship when the bomb went off.

Well, we did -- as I recall, we cut from a shot of Six inside the Marauder to an exterior shot of the Marauder being engulfed in the blink drive detonation. However, the detonation was not merely an explosion, but a spherical burst of exotic energy that turned out to be an interdimensional rift. Therefore, it's quite possible that Six and the Marauder were sucked through the rift when it formed.


Hmm, so Two has been possessed since the episode that introduced the aliens? Were there any obvious gaps where we didn't see her where it could have happened.

Yes, just minutes earlier when she was taken to be interrogated by the female FerrousCorp officer whose own eyes went black, showing that she was one of the simulant infiltrators established a few episodes ago. We cut from there to Wexler rescuing Three and Six, and no doubt Two was being taken over while that was going on.


Hopefully her possession won't get dragged out forever. A few episodes be OK, but I'd prefer it not drag on through the whole season, or even half season.

It took them only a couple of minutes to "exorcise" Three last season, though it might be harder this time since Two was made to be a host for the aliens.


I'm curious to see exactly how the conflict with the aliens will play out since some of them appear to have infiltrated the corporations.

It feels sort of been-there-done-that to me, considering that the show's creators are veterans of Stargate, a series in which the villains were alien parasites that possessed human bodies. Oh, and there's also the show immediately before it, Killjoys, in which the whole series arc is about the heroes battling alien parasites that possess human bodies and that have infiltrated the society's major institutions. And how many other alien possession/infiltration stories have we seen in SFTV? War of the Worlds: The Series, TNG: "Conspiracy," Dark Skies (apparently), the Drakh Keepers in Babylon 5, maybe a few Doctor Who stories here and there, etc.
 
The Raza has a list of "simulant" false identities, which may include the one that had infiltrated Ferrous. I guess Ryo, Five and Android will now share that list with all the corps and the GA (they will be believed, after what happened, and Mikkei will back them up). There was a fleet of ships that came through though, and those will probably take quite something to be stopped (judging by how this kind of thing usually goes, this kind of invasion usually has either superior numbers or superior technology).

I'm not sure there was really an explosion in the Marauder; Ink-Two had said the blink drive was rigged to explode but instead the drive created a portal which may have sucked not only the Marauder with Six, but also the Ferrous shipyard into black ink space (similar to what happened to Ryo's research facility in S03E02).
 
I never expected them to actually kill him off. If he'd stayed the emperor and the big bad, then I could've seen his storyline ending in a fight to the death with the rest of the main cast, though probably not until the series finale. But once he was deposed and on the run, I knew it would be the beginning of an arc leading him back to the crew, because he no longer posed a meaningful threat. They wouldn't have ended his story in such an anticlimactic way, defeated by a coup rather than by the protagonists.
Good point.
Plus I'm still somewhat convinced that the main reason they killed One and Devin off was because the actors were less than impressive. Alex Mallari, Jr. is a strong enough actor that they wouldn't have a motive to get rid of him.
Yeah, Alex Mallari Jr. is probably the only one of those people I would have missed if he had been killed. At this point I'm hoping we don't lose any more of the core five, at least for a while.



He wasn't explicitly killed off, so he'll probably come out alive. It doesn't seem like they're done with his storyline yet, although they do have a tendency to abandon things abruptly. In any case, I really like Andrew Moodie in the role, so I hope he returns.
OK, I think I remember seeing some Ishida ships being destroyed and I wasn't sure if one of those was explicitly his.


The actor is kind of entertaining, but it's hard for me to see Wexler as a "fun" character considering that his original incarnation was portrayed as a borderline sexual predator, harassing Two and threatening Five with rape. I suppose the writers could claim that this alternate version is less of a sadistic creep, but that would be inconsistent with how the alternate universe was portrayed, as essentially identical except for events unfolding slightly differently.
I completely forgot about the Wexler from our universe, so I didn't realize he was that bad. I just thought he was pretty fun here.



Well, we did -- as I recall, we cut from a shot of Six inside the Marauder to an exterior shot of the Marauder being engulfed in the blink drive detonation. However, the detonation was not merely an explosion, but a spherical burst of exotic energy that turned out to be an interdimensional rift. Therefore, it's quite possible that Six and the Marauder were sucked through the rift when it formed.
Oh, I forgot we got a shot from inside the Marauder with Six in it before the portal was opened.



Yes, just minutes earlier when she was taken to be interrogated by the female FerrousCorp officer whose own eyes went black, showing that she was one of the simulant infiltrators established a few episodes ago. We cut from there to Wexler rescuing Three and Six, and no doubt Two was being taken over while that was going on.

Thank you.


It took them only a couple of minutes to "exorcise" Three last season, though it might be harder this time since Two was made to be a host for the aliens.
My concern is how long it will take them to realize something is wrong with her.



It feels sort of been-there-done-that to me, considering that the show's creators are veterans of Stargate, a series in which the villains were alien parasites that possessed human bodies. Oh, and there's also the show immediately before it, Killjoys, in which the whole series arc is about the heroes battling alien parasites that possess human bodies and that have infiltrated the society's major institutions. And how many other alien possession/infiltration stories have we seen in SFTV? War of the Worlds: The Series, TNG: "Conspiracy," Dark Skies (apparently), the Drakh Keepers in Babylon 5, maybe a few Doctor Who stories here and there, etc.
Sure it's been done before, but that doesn't mean it can't still be entertaining here.
 
Yeah, Alex Mallari Jr. is probably the only one of those people I would have missed if he had been killed. At this point I'm hoping we don't lose any more of the core five, at least for a while.

Actually, of the remaining regulars, I think Ryo's the one I'd be most willing to lose, hypothetically.


My concern is how long it will take them to realize something is wrong with her.

Oh, they already know that -- the damaged Android texted Five to tip her off that Two was compromised by an alien, and Five let Ryo out of confinement so he could subdue her. That's why Five was trying so hard to get Six to abort, because she knew it was a trap. At the end of the episode, Two was unconscious, stunned by Ryo.


Sure it's been done before, but that doesn't mean it can't still be entertaining here.

I think I've made it clear by now that I have a lot of skepticism about the quality of the writing on this show. Now it feels like they're just repeating a trick from their old show, plus it's very similar to the story arc their sister show on Syfy has been doing all along, so in that context, it seems like it'd be an uphill battle to make it feel distinctive or original.
 
I completely forgot about the Wexler from our universe, so I didn't realize he was that bad. I just thought he was pretty fun here.

Alt-Wexler is basically Rich Dot Com, his Blindspot character, in space.
 
Apropos of nothing, I'm getting annoyed by the now-cliche "show a character is evil by having their eyes do something weird" trick. I know it's the cheapest, easiest effects shortcut there is, but it's been a trope since (at least) Stargate and X-Files.
 
Oh, they already know that -- the damaged Android texted Five to tip her off that Two was compromised by an alien, and Five let Ryo out of confinement so he could subdue her. That's why Five was trying so hard to get Six to abort, because she knew it was a trap. At the end of the episode, Two was unconscious, stunned by Ryo.
Oh, yeah I completely forgot about that.
Alt-Wexler is basically Rich Dot Com, his Blindspot character, in space.
That's why he seems familiar.
 
Interestingly, this S3 season finale brought together lots of elements used in earlier episodes.

Ferrous and Mikkei were introduced in the pilot episode; their rivalry has been a big driving force for the Raza crew, allthough it took until this episode for the shooting to start (and probably end with the arrival of the aliens).

The Traugott while hole device (from S1e10 and S1e11) was used again, as a plot device at least.

Dwarf Star and its aliens were introduced S1e12, with a clear look at the aliens in S2e09. And of course, the reveal of their motives and plans in S03e11.

The blink drive was already introduced (as a mystery key card) in S1, got fleshed out in S2e07 and S2e08 and its various uses have demonstrated its capability to open all kinds of space/time holes. I suspect what happened to the Ishida facility in S03e02 may be somewhat similar to what happened to the Marauder and the Ferrous shipyard. Allthough S03e09 was a totally different episode seemingly out of sync with the main storylines, it did bring the intact version of the blink drive to be used in the final.

The entire Zairon arc led to a moment where the remaining Ishida ships could make a difference. Without them, Six would probably not have made the attempt.

The Android liberation front did not come into play this episode, but with Androids presumably being ink-alien-proof, they would probably play an important role in fighting them in S4, even if they would be planning all the time to turn on any human allies at the appropriate moment.
 
OK, I think I remember seeing some Ishida ships being destroyed and I wasn't sure if one of those was explicitly his.
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Teku came with a force of 6 cruisers and 3 destroyers. Presumably, he would have been on one of the (larger) cruisers. Two of the cruisers were confirmed destroyed in the battle, so that would give him 2 chances out of 3. If the actor can return, the character is likely to have survived as he is someone that can work with Ryo.
 
Good finale, I don't think I could have asked for much more.

I find it incredibly hard to believe that Six is gone for good. That was quite clearly a dimensional portal after all. He just went in the other direction. On the other hand, none of us thought One was dead either, and look how that turned out.

I'd say the most interesting development here was Three teaming up with Portia. Hopefully that pairing will deliver some entertainment before the right dimensional entities are united. And I'll agree with the folks who said Portai can't permanently replace Two if she's fully alien. That would waste too much character development. Though it did seem uncharacteristically thoughtful of Portia to let everybody know that Three was safe.

That said, I would not mind seeing a fair number of episodes where Two is Locutus before she's finally returned to her non-alien state. Heck, maybe she could be the bad guy for the whole season, like Ryo was this year.

Assuming this gets renewed. It's gotta be renewed, right? There's no way they could end it like that.
 
On the other hand, none of us thought One was dead either, and look how that turned out.

Speak for yourself. I knew he was dead:
It sure looked to me like Corso's final shot was to One's head. After the shots to the chest, he took his time aiming at One's fallen body before firing; no reason he'd do that for just another chest shot. And then we cut to a shot of One where there was definitely a mark on his forehead -- the angle made it a bit unclear, but there's really nothing it could be except a bullet hole.

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Except those dissolve to dust almost immediately after being "killed." The camera lingered on One/Moss long enough to make it unlikely that he's a Transfer Transit clone.
 
That said, I would not mind seeing a fair number of episodes where Two is Locutus before she's finally returned to her non-alien state. Heck, maybe she could be the bad guy for the whole season, like Ryo was this year.
Ugh, I hope not. We just got a whole season of the Raza crew fighting a former, and now maybe returned, crewmate and I'd rather not see them do that again so soon.
 
Ugh, I hope not. We just got a whole season of the Raza crew fighting a former, and now maybe returned, crewmate and I'd rather not see them do that again so soon.
Yeah, i agree. Hopefully Two will be back to herself in the season premiere or by the second episode. Beyond that it's too repetitive.
 
Yeah, i agree. Hopefully Two will be back to herself in the season premiere or by the second episode. Beyond that it's too repetitive.
I think the situation will be quickly restored, all that character building for Two won't be dumped (Portia would not be a true replacement).

I would also expect Six to have survived and be recovered. If we do get a season 4.
 
Oh, well. I'll miss the cast, but I was getting increasingly frustrated with the clumsy plotting. It's too bad they won't get to resolve the cliffhangers, though. Well, the series began as a comic, so maybe they'll do a comic to wrap it up.
 
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