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On an over the air broadcast network? Cable and streaming, sure...but what TV MA shows are on CBS, NBC, ABC?
You're........kidding, right?
What are some examples of programs shown regularly on over-the-air broadcast television with the TV-MA rating? The OTA networks deliberately shy away from airing TV-MA content (a cursory search online revealed that there have been a few very rare instances).
Kor
I can't believe I have to actually list them FOR YOU since you could Google it yourself.
Brooklyn South (CBS)
Howard Stern (CBS, 1998, btw)
The Good Fight (CBS)
http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/the-good-fight/999615/
American Koko (ABC)
Hannibal (NBC)
https://www.nbc.com/tv-rating/tv-ma
Oh, and FOX put up a boatload of clips specifically for TV-MA
http://www.fox.com/rating/tv-ma
Brooklyn South (CBS)
Howard Stern (CBS, 1998, btw)
The Good Fight (CBS)
http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/the-good-fight/999615/
American Koko (ABC)
Hannibal (NBC)
https://www.nbc.com/tv-rating/tv-ma
Oh, and FOX put up a boatload of clips specifically for TV-MA
http://www.fox.com/rating/tv-ma
Sure, the premiere episode of Brooklyn South was one of those rare instances of TV-MA actually playing over the air that I just acknowledged.
But American Koko is specifically a web series available only on ABC digital.
And the link to The Good Fight says it's TV-14.
NBC showed every episode of Hannibal over the air with a TV-14 rating prominently displayed on the screen. Perhaps the versions available on their website have additional scenes?
And the programs in that Fox link, namely Legion, Better Things, and Atlanta, are all specific to FX, which is Fox's cable network. When were they broadcast over the air on Fox?
Kor
No need to shout.
As ozzfloyd pointed out, that show is not on broadcast. It's exclusive to CBS All Access.
Was the premiere episode broadcast over-the-air on CBS with a TV-MA rating? Given that the show itself is given a blanket rating of TV-14, that's probably what the first (and only) broadcast episode was rated.
Personally, I find the whole topic fascinating, as it's a practical example of Herbert Hoover's concept of the "associative state" in which industries would self-govern and self-regulate so that the government wouldn't feel the need step in and impose its own standards. And even some grown-up viewers prefer to avoid certain types of content, so it's nice to know ahead of time what is included in a program.
Kor
The thing about self-regulated ratings is, not only do the come off as arbitrary, but they're so blatantly skewed by the shifting-baseline effect.
I think the place this is most obvious--even more than TV--is video games, if only because of how much the industry has change in the two-plus decades since the ESRB started.
I think the place this is most obvious--even more than TV--is video games, if only because of how much the industry has change in the two-plus decades since the ESRB started.
Yeah. That's a trend that's started within the past several years. I always take a look at television show ratings. If it was TV-MA, I wrote it off but was fine with TV-14. Now I have to be careful with TV-14 as well.
That CBS has said that there would be no graphic sex nor nudity in Discovery, yet the show is rated TV-MA anyway has me very concerned. Considering the blood and gore that has been shown in TV-14 rated television shows as of late...
It could just be for language more than anything else, I think all you need to do is say shit or goddamn it a few times and you end up with an MA. I'm honestly not 100% on the language border for MA vs 14.
There are a few shows I've seen that have ended up MA just for language, like It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia, which is pretty consistently MA, but doesn't usually have any sex or overly graphic violence, that I can remember.
They could always just censor it for the broadcast version, and leave it uncut on CBSAA.
I didn't know that, but it does explains how shows like Hannibal, Bones, and the CSIs could get so gory.
It wasn't just the autopsies on Bones and CSI, there were some pretty graphic death scenes for their victims, and some of the bodies were pretty nasty when they found them.
Where'd you find the graphic violence description?
As for the violence itself, I'm guessing the Klingons are probably responsible.
Where'd you find the graphic violence description?
As for the violence itself, I'm guessing the Klingons are probably responsible.
It's funny because it's so darn random--especially in this day and age.I'm glad that someone finds it funny.This will be first new Star Trek I won't watch in approximately 35 years. I just hope that the show will be good for those that will watch it.
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It could be due to language that was "audio edited" out in the TV broadcast version.
There are TV shows that know they also have a life outside of broadcast TV, such as through iTunes or future DVD sales. These shows are filmed with certain words (and maybe, as you mentioned, certain scenes) that are edited out of the broadcast TV version, but are planned to be included in the other versions.
I remember getting into forum discussions with people who wonder why a broadcast (or even basic cable) would even include a curse word (usually the F-word) in the script if they were just going to edit the audio anyway. I had to explain that it was only edited for the broadcast TV version, not necessarily all versions.
So in the case of Hannibal, maybe there were certain words (maybe the F word=, for example) that were edited out of the broadcast version to make it TV-14, but were in other versions (DVD, iTunes, even the on-demand version) that would make those other version TV-MA.
That makes sense. Even an episode of Mad Men had an instance of the F-bomb muted on cable but audible on home video.
Kor
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