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"We Boldly Go" - first commercial

No, not really. And I have proof. That first season of TNG was laughable. Were we excited? Yes. Did we take it seriously at first? Nooooooooooooooooo.

Below are flyers that were handed out at a Star Trek con in NYC around third season of TNG. You say that people loved it. No, sorry, Trek cons were filled with people that despised TNG.

So, sorry, it's not an opinion. This is how people really felt about it at first.

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And look at the love for Star Trek V, and Shatners vision....
 
I understand it is because of the international distribution rights, but you would think any commercial would help the cause.
 
Wow, when your argument is "look how amazing Star Trek V is, we want more of that" you are certainly dedicated. Boycott TNG!
 
I think the geoblocking is for a very practical reason. The clips say "available on CBS All Access" or something, so they only want them viewed where that is accurate.

Still sucks that there aren't appropriate localized versions released at the same time.
 
I think the geoblocking is for a very practical reason. The clips say "available on CBS All Access" or something, so they only want them viewed where that is accurate.

Still sucks that there aren't appropriate localized versions released at the same time.
My thinking..! I think CBS and Netflix should make sure they simultaneously release things like this, to avoid frustration!
 
As others have said, geoblocking is because DSC is running on different services/platforms/networks around the world. It's probably in their distribution deals that each platform/network will handle their own local promotion (not only does that make sense, but it's important to their businesses-- Space in Canada, for example, don't want audiences in their "jusidiction" seeing spots that advertise CBSAA, they want their audiences to know it's on their channel).

This was true in the 90s with Trek, with each station running the commercials (that were provided by the studio) on their own schedules.

Obviously the web makes things different, but these spots were not meant for us, they were meant for the wider masses. Space and Netflix will surely trot out these spots in their own time.
 
I don't want dark and gritty. I also don't want a series about War. Too many sci-fi series seem to be focused on war and conflict. If I want human misery and pain with lots of casual sex I can watch "The Expanse". If ST: Disc fails it will be because people are tired of pessimism and want some optimism.

Wait. How did you get "gritty pessimism" from this promo instead of "discovery of the unknown":

From the promo:
As we stand at the edge of the universe,
we know that our greatest challenges lie before us,
that our future is not bound by fear,
and that our mission is not to conquer, but to discover.

That is our destiny; a destiny written in the stars,
And so we boldly go where we have never gone before.

In my opinion, those words connote a normal Star Trek-like theme of exploration and discovery. Especially the line in the promo that said "...and that our mission is not to conquer, but to discover." That, to me does not sound like the show is about war (or else they would not have specified that their mission is to discover rather than conquer).
 
My thinking is that the overall arc will involve the war with the Klingons (culminating in the Cold War we see in TOS), but it won't be space battles and hand to hand combat in every episode. I think it's going to have exploration in it as well.

It's like when I read about the Civil War. All most people center on are the battles. What isn't centered on are the days or even weeks when fighting was not occurring.
 
Sorry Mister Warp, but this trailer is out of context...

The STNG trailer played right before the series premiere(note it starts with: "tonight"). It's still 2 months away from the pilot of DSC. The DSC teaser is perfectly fine for familiarizing viewers with the look of the characters. A character intro can be done right before the show.

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First, that is completely different than the Discovery teaser. Note that it actually INTRODUCES the characters, instead of trying to be deep and artsy and just showing them out of context. Second, it was played immediately before the premiere started (hence the "Tonight, the 24th century begins" opening).

Even so, you're damn right that was so much better for us in 1987. It showed us the tech, characters, ships, villains, etc... and made the imminent show more interesting. I get that the last Discovery trailer did too, but at this point the "one and done" attitude is frustrating. Enough of the freakin' secrecy. This is a TV show, not national security.
 
Well, add to that the fact that the "character intros" in the TNG trailer were lame as Hell:

"Data - an android;"
"LaForge - a man with unique vision."

I remember a friend who got a look at the TNG casting sheet early on was very amused: "They've got a genius kid, a guy who can see through walls, a robot and a woman who reads minds. This doesn't sound like Star Trek, it sounds like the X-Men." :lol:
 
Below are flyers that were handed out at a Star Trek con in NYC around third season of TNG. You say that people loved it. No, sorry, Trek cons were filled with people that despised TNG.

Wow, what badly written drivel! And, to recommend that you go see ST V many times is pretty deranged!! :guffaw:
 
Well, add to that the fact that the "character intros" in the TNG trailer were lame as Hell:

"Data - an android;"
"LaForge - a man with unique vision."

I remember a friend who got a look at the TNG casting sheet early on was very amused: "They've got a genius kid, a guy who can see through walls, a robot and a woman who reads minds. This doesn't sound like Star Trek, it sounds like the X-Men." :lol:
And both are led by the same bald guy!
 
Well, add to that the fact that the "character intros" in the TNG trailer were lame as Hell:

"Data - an android;"
"LaForge - a man with unique vision."

I remember a friend who got a look at the TNG casting sheet early on was very amused: "They've got a genius kid, a guy who can see through walls, a robot and a woman who reads minds. This doesn't sound like Star Trek, it sounds like the X-Men." :lol:
It's funny, I've been going over some of my pre-STNG material lately and I have the very first character mentions. If you think about the STNG characters, they're really kind of groundbreaking...

Yes, a blind man who through 24th-century tech can "see". I'm not sure we can underestimate how many "disabled" people were heartened by this in 1987.

An android. In one fell swoop, all of the 60s anti-computer paranoia was dispelled. It also was Positronic, which got a lot of sci-fi fans on board. It seems even more relevant today as there is an AI explosion happening.

A Klingon. For obvious reasons. One day they'd be "fast friends". I have to admit, I didn't give Worf his due the first airing around 1987-1994. I have since come to appreciate Dorn's performance and Ron Moore's development much more.

"Macha Hernandez". I wish they'd kept her "Macha"

RAMA
 
First, that is completely different than the Discovery teaser. ... Second, it was played immediately before the premiere started (hence the "Tonight, the 24th century begins" opening).

Sorry Mister Warp, but this trailer is out of context...

The STNG trailer played right before the series premiere(note it starts with: "tonight").

There's an echo in here! Anyway, Discovery still hasn't established any of these characters, so if you haven't read up on their background you don't know who they are or why you should care about them. The eyeball poster ads at least gave their names!
 
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