So I guess that confirmed Discovery is set in 2256
Discovery at STLV. The massive info dump
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So I guess that confirmed Discovery is set in 2256
So, STVI:TUC WAS right.
Now it's "A-list shows". Which is not a thing, but fine... i'd say Twin Peaks, Flash, Arrow, Preacher, Minority Report, Fear The Walking Dead, The Expanse, Jessica Jones, and 24 are all "A-List" shows .. or were when they premiered.. if you ask me. Several if not all have made the cover of major magazines like Entertainment Weekly.
They are all shows that have big audiences, big budgets, on major network or cable channels ... and were big deals for their networks at launch.
What you're doing is called MOVING THE GOAL POSTS.
I said shows do this often, and I've proved that. Clearly they simply didn't want to screen this at the show, i'll agree with you there, but from what i've shown, it was a viable option, and one networks do often, particularly with genre shows.
so They said the books will not be canon, which sucks cause why put all that effort into creating a novel if it's not going to be canon in the Discovery universe?
The Flash, Arrow, Preacher are NOT A-List shows In fact, nothing on the CW can be considered A-List. Fear The Walking Dead is getting a lot of flak. 24 hasn't been relevant in years. I'm not moving the goalposts, I just don't consider your list of shows, save two or three, to be relevant. You're comparing Star Trek to Arrow? For real?
No Trek Novels are canon. Not a one, not even those Novelizations of Movies. And honestly this is a good thing.
You ask that about the thousands of Star Trek Books/Comics/Games that already exist.
Or the same thing for other franchises that don't consider that material canon.
well that sucks!
Maybe I understood the tweets wrong but it sounded like they're not canon on the same level as the show. The stories told in them (books and comics for the show) are the backstory they're using for the show. It's been thought out and plotted. However the they reserve the right to change anything going forward and won't be tied down by them.
So I take that to mean that if they get a season 2 and they decide to alter something that is told in a book for whatever reason and they're going to show it in live action that's what they're going to do. The fact that it was already written in the novel isn't going to stop them. Sounds like things will be fluid with the show always taking precedent in what is "canon' in the end.
Ok, I get it, you're digging in your heels and no matter what I say you'll keep moving those goal posts. Now that you're proven wrong, just move along with them, OK?
Which means it's not canon.
Not really, this allows both the company making the novels and the film crew total creative freedom. You see that with the current Startrek books made by pocket books. They need not worry about being told "You can't do this". And I have seen where making all novels canon can really screw you up. IN D&D the setting Forgotten realms has close to a 100 novels, and each is "canon" and each made setting changes that each and every other author had to know about and that the game company then had to work around and so on. It was a mess, so bad the nuked the setting to try and give themselves some creative freedom, which then tanked novel sales.
Nah, it's cool. When a show from the CW becomes culturally relevant, let me know.
FYI, Flash has an audience comparable to Enterprise. It's last season premiere had nearly twice the number of viewers ENT averaged in its final season.
But once again, you ignore all my other points to say Trek isn't QUITE the same as some of the examples I cited. And then you deny moving the goal posts. But what you're doing is EXACTLY what moving the goal posts means.
You said it wasn't common for genre shows to screen episodes at conventions. I showed you a list of 2 dozen that did. None of the increasingly specific criteria you keep throwing out there is relevant to that point.
By the way, X-Files, Westworld, Twin Peaks, Jessica Jones, Defenders, Revolution (which premiered to TWICE the number of viewers that Enterprise had at its peak), all had episodes screened at cons. But I know, I know, nothing is EXACTLY comparable to Discovery!
Preacher is on AMC isn't it? Now that is a funky ass show.
That doesn't mean it's culturally relevant.
To be fair, you stated "Big shows" not culturally relevant ones. The list he provided does fall under big shows. You may not like them, but they are successful shows( for the most part) and so fit.
Now, I simply think they are not gonna show it as that is pretty much all CBS all access has to offer.
I don't consider anything on CW to be "big". Maybe in little circles, but how many people are watching "Arrow"? Not many.
