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[Apparition B5]

The funny thing is I waste more than six bucks on a lot of worthless things but just the sheer principle of this experiment rubs me the wrong way. If it does really well will they move it to the CBS All Access Premium Tier for $10 or whatever?

That's exactly how I feel... it's not $6, it's the precedent

For many people (including myself), that live in apartments or condominiums and have no access to outdoor antennas, Star Trek has required some sort of subscription since 1987. Now instead of cable however, it just requires CBS All Access (in the U.S.) or Netflix (outside of North America). I consider that an improvement myself, because cable television is terrible.

 

[Squiggy]

I'm definitely cancelling during the break, and when Discovery is over I'll cancel until season 2 however long that is. If many do like me, cbs should say "Star Trek is successful but all access isn't" and then extend the Netflix agreement to the us as well or put it on the network in a primetime slot.

The bar for being successful on All Access is sooooooo much lower than being successful on network.

 

[Balok's Decoy]

I've never had to pay for trek before

I'm happy to pay for content that I consume. I never expect my entertainment to be free.

 

[CaptainPete]

The bar for being successful on All Access is sooooooo much lower than being successful on network.

So why not admit all access is a failure and extend the Netflix agreement to just one more country

 

[Apparition B5]

So why not admit all access is a failure and extend the Netflix agreement to just one more country

Because it's not a failure. CBS stated a couple of months ago that it had over one million paying subscribers already, and that's several months before the premiere of Discovery.

 

[Balok's Decoy]

So why not admit all access is a failure and extend the Netflix agreement to just one more country

Just because it takes less to be successful on CBSAA doesn't mean it's a failure. When your market is smaller, your targets are smaller. The idea is growth, not "We need to be as big as Netflix today, and if not, fuck it, give all our potential earnings to Netflix." lol

 

[F. King Daniel]

I'll be watching Sept 25th on Netflix in the UK.

 

[tomalak301]

I haven't read this thread all the way through so this has probably been asked but what is the point of a streaming service (in this bold new tv world) when the season is still going to be split up as if it's on CBS anyway?

 

[Balok's Decoy]

I haven't read this thread all the way through so this has probably been asked but what is the point of a streaming service (in this bold new tv world) when the season is still going to be split up as if it's on CBS anyway?

Probably so they can release some of the episodes sooner, continue to work on finishing the season, then release the final episodes later. As opposed to making people wait even longer while they finish the entire season.

 

[JD]

For sure. I watch a lot of TV and none of it is on a traditional network. Who watches broadcast television nowadays, anyway?

I do. I still just have basic cable, I can't afford to go to digital cable, and I don't really want to have to sign up for a million different services to see everything I want to watch.

 

[Tuskin38]

Probably so they can release some of the episodes sooner, continue to work on finishing the season, then release the final episodes later. As opposed to making people wait even longer while they finish the entire season.

Just like like a lot of TV shows.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

I haven't read this thread all the way through so this has probably been asked but what is the point of a streaming service (in this bold new tv world) when the season is still going to be split up as if it's on CBS anyway?

Think of it like a premium cable TV service, such as HBO (although CBSAA is accessed via the internet like Netflix). HBO currently does not make all of Game of Thrones or Westworld episodes available at the same time for binge watching, but only weekly.

 

[Sakonna]

I haven't read this thread all the way through so this has probably been asked but what is the point of a streaming service (in this bold new tv world) when the season is still going to be split up as if it's on CBS anyway?

There's a market for the week-to-week release in streaming as well, this is what Hulu does with most of their shows. I was actually just talking about this the other day, how Handmaid's Tale was really helped by coming one at a time and not all at once. It's a show that's enhanced if you give it time to breath between installments, and it helps brings back the communal aspect of TV by putting people on a schedule.

Also, it keeps the show in the public eye longer. You put it all up at once, all the press and think pieces go up that weekend, and then by Tuesday it's done and the world is on to the next. Release them one at a time, you can keep generating more coverage, keep the show in the cultural conversation longer, which can pull in additional viewers

If there were splitting a 13 episode season I'd find that slightly annoying, but with 15 shows it's fine. Also if they ran them straight through they'd be putting the last ep on Christmas Eve, which is weird timing.

 

[Squiggy]

So why not admit all access is a failure and extend the Netflix agreement to just one more country

Because it's not a failure?

 

[Balok's Decoy]

Also, it keeps the show in the public eye longer. You put it all up at once, all the press and think pieces go up that weekend, and then by Tuesday it's done and the world is on to the next. Release them one at a time, you can keep generating more coverage, keep the show in the cultural conversation longer, which can pull in additional viewers

I think this is true of Master of None season 2. Amazing show, but was only talked about in the press for a couple weeks, now you don't hear much about it (although it deserves a lot more analysis and discussion than it's gotten).

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Some of you folks do realize that there is more than just DSC on CBSAA, don't you? I pay $6.00 a month, and watch a lot of classic TV shows I like, as well as some movies I like to see more than once. Some of these have been taken off Netflix in favor of their obsession with original programming, and I can still watch it on CBSAA.

To me, it's well worth the $6.00 a month, and DSC will be icing on the cake.

 

[Balok's Decoy]

Some of you folks do realize that there is more than just DSC on CBSAA, don't you? I pay $6.00 a month, and watch a lot of classic TV shows I like, as well as some movies I like to see more than once. Some of these have been taken off Netflix in favor of their obsession with original programming, and I can still watch it on CBSAA.

To me, it's well worth the $6.00 a month, and DSC will be icing on the cake.

I subscribed for a while and was watching The Good Fight (which is a fantastic show). The only reason I hopped off it (for now) is because I got into some other shows and wasn't using CBSAA as much. There is some good stuff on CBSAA right now.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

I subscribed for a while and was watching The Good Fight (which is a fantastic show). The only reason I hopped off it (for now) is because I got into some other shows and wasn't using CBSAA as much. There is some good stuff on CBSAA right now.

I had browsed over it before, not too long before DSC was announced, then subscribed when the series was announced as part of it. But I get to watch Elementary (which is OK, not as good as Sherlock, IMO) and some other current shows, but I also get Mission: Impossible and Twilight Zone among other classic series.

It's the only online service I subscribe to, and to me it's worth the money.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Judging weather CBSAA is or isn't a failure when the medium is still in its infancy is silly. Wait until there are 5-10 (or more) services on the market all competing for your $10 a month. Of course DIS will be long over before this happens. but the point is, right now it's still a supplementary for that vast majority of people so that $6 doesn't seem like much.

But then the real test will come once streaming becomes the primary/ubiquitous source of evening entertainment and the services will be able to freely consolidate and create an oligopoly, which is the industry endgame however long it might take. But also a discussion for a different time and place.