They already did a movie along those lines, kind of. It's called The Search for Spock.
Is the animated series a good sequel to the original series?
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They already did a movie along those lines, kind of. It's called The Search for Spock.
Interestingly enough, I have a podcast, Tales From SYL Ranch, in which I have a feature called The Old Fan's Commentary. This is where I watch SF movies and comment. It's not a reaction: I've seen them all a million times. It's me talking about what it was like to watch them for the first time, and about the fandom of the period.
I love The Animated Series. It's partly because of my age when I saw it. The animation was limited, but they spent most of it on really great backgrounds. The characters may not move much, but look at what's behind them!
Everything was more expansive than what you could get on TOS. Lieutenant Arex, for goodness' sake. Sure, you could CGI him today, but he was impossible in TOS, plain and simple. I thought that part of it was awesome.
"The Slaver Weapon" was also a milestone for me as an SF fan. It was there that I was introduced to Larry Niven's Known Space and SF literature more generally.
TAS had its groaners ("The Infinite Vulcan," "The Counter-Clock Incident"), but the hit-miss ratio wasn't bad.
I really love the TAS.
Dakota Smith
I've been running my podcast on a much smaller service and am expanding. I'm dark for a few weeks and then re-launch at the new service on July 4.
The reason I bring this up is that while I've not 'cast them yet, I have three episodes of TAS in the can and am planning to do a couple of others.
So far, I have, "Beyond the Farthest Star," "More Tribbles, More Troubles," and, "The Slaver Weapon." I'm also seriously considering "The Jihad." They are, to me, some of the best examples of TAS.
I don't know when these will 'cast. With the re-launch, I'm re-using the some of the same content (it was about five listeners on the other site, so I'm safe). I decided to open the Commentaries to any SF film or TV between ~1930 and 1980. Prior to 1930 I know little of SF fandom and can't relate to the culture. After 1980 was heavily-commercialized and well-documented so I've nothing to add.
I plan to generally take things in order, with a few exceptions. I did a Space: 1999 commentary that will 'cast on July 4. I did one for Star Wars on its 40th: that will be 'cast in Week 2. The Star Wars Holiday Special will be Week 3. I'll do Close Encounters Of the Third Kind later this year on its 40th. Similarly Superman in 2018.
My first Commentary was Star Trek - The Motion Picture: The Director's Edition. I'm planning to hold that back until 1979 unless I get requests for it sooner.
Week 4 I'm going back to the 1930s for the pre-code Tarzan and His Mate. It's rather astonishing in 2017.
After that, I'm walking forward. A few Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers serials, Superman cartoons and serials, The Adventures Of Captain Marvel, the 1940s Batman serials, Captain America serials, Spy Smasher serials ...
I have a Commentary for Forbidden Planet that's already been 'cast that I'll get to. I even have
in the can but not 'cast. That will come up.
The reason I bring this up is that while I've not 'cast them yet, I have three episodes of TAS in the can and am planning to do a couple of others.
So far, I have, "Beyond the Farthest Star," "More Tribbles, More Troubles," and, "The Slaver Weapon." I'm also seriously considering "The Jihad." They are, to me, some of the best examples of TAS.
I don't know when these will 'cast. With the re-launch, I'm re-using the some of the same content (it was about five listeners on the other site, so I'm safe). I decided to open the Commentaries to any SF film or TV between ~1930 and 1980. Prior to 1930 I know little of SF fandom and can't relate to the culture. After 1980 was heavily-commercialized and well-documented so I've nothing to add.
I plan to generally take things in order, with a few exceptions. I did a Space: 1999 commentary that will 'cast on July 4. I did one for Star Wars on its 40th: that will be 'cast in Week 2. The Star Wars Holiday Special will be Week 3. I'll do Close Encounters Of the Third Kind later this year on its 40th. Similarly Superman in 2018.
My first Commentary was Star Trek - The Motion Picture: The Director's Edition. I'm planning to hold that back until 1979 unless I get requests for it sooner.
Week 4 I'm going back to the 1930s for the pre-code Tarzan and His Mate. It's rather astonishing in 2017.
After that, I'm walking forward. A few Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers serials, Superman cartoons and serials, The Adventures Of Captain Marvel, the 1940s Batman serials, Captain America serials, Spy Smasher serials ...
I have a Commentary for Forbidden Planet that's already been 'cast that I'll get to. I even have
2001: A Space Odyssey
I love The Animated Series. It's partly because of my age when I saw it. The animation was limited, but they spent most of it on really great backgrounds. The characters may not move much, but look at what's behind them!
Everything was more expansive than what you could get on TOS. Lieutenant Arex, for goodness' sake. Sure, you could CGI him today, but he was impossible in TOS, plain and simple. I thought that part of it was awesome.
"The Slaver Weapon" was also a milestone for me as an SF fan. It was there that I was introduced to Larry Niven's Known Space and SF literature more generally.
TAS had its groaners ("The Infinite Vulcan," "The Counter-Clock Incident"), but the hit-miss ratio wasn't bad.
I really love the TAS.
Dakota Smith
If you want to hear me talk about it and what fandom was like in the mid-1970s, check out my podcast, Tales From SYL Ranch at http://sylranch.wrstone.com.
There's little there now, but I'll be re-launching on July 4 starting with The Old Fan's Commentary On Space: 1999.
If you'd like to hear me talk about something out of chronological order (TAS comes to mind), I'm building a Patreon. When functional, listener suggestions will be taken from Patreon donors. I'm trying to make money on this, after all.
If you like what I've been saying, you might to sample The Old Fan's Commentary On Space: 1999 the week of July 4.
There's little there now, but I'll be re-launching on July 4 starting with The Old Fan's Commentary On Space: 1999.
If you'd like to hear me talk about something out of chronological order (TAS comes to mind), I'm building a Patreon. When functional, listener suggestions will be taken from Patreon donors. I'm trying to make money on this, after all.
If you like what I've been saying, you might to sample The Old Fan's Commentary On Space: 1999 the week of July 4.
That you but with Gene Rodenberry stating that Robert April was the first Captain of the Enterprise Constitution Class and the animation show the counter clock incedent that had Commodore Robert April and his wife Sarah Pool April who was the Enterprise first Chief Medical Officer that mean that is part the total five mission
Canon is very conflicted on this. Roddenberry himself said for many years that TAS wasn't canon. April was supposed to have commanded the Enterprise for years. The Memory Alpha wiki says he was facing mandatory retirement in "Counterclock Incident" 25 years after he first commanded the Enterprise. That would make the Enterprise at least 30 years old by the time of TMP, assuming only five years had passed since TAS. Yet years later in ST III, Admiral Morrow says that the Enterprise was only 20 years old yet obsolete. It couldn't have been 20 years old since the refit, either. Kirk and crew certainly hadn't aged 20 years between TMP and ST III.
Captain April took command in 2245-2250 ; Captain Pike in 2250-2261 ; a refit then Captain Kirk 2264-2269 ; major refit under Captain William Decker 2269-2271 ; then Admiral Kirk 2271-2276 ; Captain Spock 2276-2284 training duty ; and Admiral Kirk 2284-2285. Admiral Kirk steels Enterprise in 2286 and Enterprise is destroyed. Now as for Admiral Morrow the refit design must be early than Enterprise refit so the design could be 20 year's old but was being clear.
I think that only really started in the 1989 memo, and Roddenberry died just two years later, and nobody who actually made new Trek episodes and movies ever bothered to pay attention to the memo anyway, because Roddenberry's "authority" over the franchise was purely honorary by that point ("Unification" referenced "Yesteryear" while the memo was supposedly in effect). And I gather it was mainly because of Filmation's bankruptcy and the uncertainty about the ownership of TAS at the time.
True because of debate of place it in or out of star trek history has cause the problem. Time will get it straighten out
The "debate" is really only in fandom. The makers of the actual shows have always treated it as fair game for acknowledging and occasionally ignoring, exactly like they treat the live-action canon. Fans make it all far more complicated than it has to be.
True but I will think all things star trek is star trek
I vote TAS is canon.
TAS is star trek and to me is part of the whole story as the books and the comic books too
You don't set age from a design date any more than you determine a person's age from whenever their parents decided to have children. And you really think 14 years passed between TMP and TWoK?
If TMP was set in 2271 and Admiral Kirk gets another five years or more in command of Enterprise and then Captain Spock take command as a training ship to get cadets ready for their first assignment. Kirk 2271-2276 or 2281 five or ten years Spock 2276 or 2281- 2285 so 2285 - 2271 =14 and then add in designing and research and development testing for all of the new designs could add up to six years or so the design could have been in development as of 2265 or early but getting all of the new designs to work out any bugs in the systems working
IMHO, Admiral Morrow was speaking from a PR perspective - Starfleet have been using "Enterprise" as their main publicity vehicle since the historical 5 year mission programme began, some 20 years prior. Now, with the Excelsior ready to assume the public face of the service, Enterprise's day is over....
It wasn't. That estimate from the Chronology was superseded by Voyager: "Q2," which established canonically that the 5-year mission ended in 2270. Since TMP was at least 2.5 years later, that requires it to be in 2272-73.
Different books do have different dates. One books has lieuteant Sulu being part of Hunters Squadron in 2269-2271 but others have the time 2270-2272 but some books have dates off by half a century so I will try to get information about the years from as many books as possible and try to work out my own calendar of events and years
Excelsior maybe the new of Starfleet but as of 2285 it was easy to cripple it systems that's why Admiral Kirk could steal the Enterprise with the help of Mr. Scott ; Mr. Sulu ; and Mr. Checkov. Mr.Scott pulled out some of the computer chips and it cancelled out the tranwrap drive
I'd throw in Digimon, Reboot and even Dungeons and Dragons....but probably all not Saturday Morning fare. A few recent cartoons are also up there....Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated is surprisingly well developed narratively. And features Scooby in the Lodge from Twin Peaks.
Mystery Incorporated was a show that wasn't good enough for me to watch on my own, but I wished my kids watched it more so I could see it.
Digimon and Pokemon are a pox on my existence right now.
And nothing gets my kids to leave the room faster than TOS or TAS.
(They watch Rebels and Young Justice, so I'm still raising nerds.)
Mystery Incorporated was a show that wasn't good enough for me to watch on my own, but I wished my kids watched it more so I could see it.
Digimon and Pokemon are a pox on my existence right now.
And nothing gets my kids to leave the room faster than TOS or TAS.
My little one watches The Practical Joker on loop since he got me the DVD set (with mummy's help) for xmas a few years back. I had never seen TAS till then. Now he dances between various cartoons....Super 4 is fun too, even has a TOS dynamic built in....but Scooby Doo is just starting to appeal. Mister Bean is his hands down favourite though.
Digimon, the original series, is a far far superior product to Pokemon, its day and night...there's some serious arc stuff, things on nature versus nature, the nature of good and evil...villains becoming heroes after their destiny was subverted to send them on the dark path, that sort of thing.
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