This is so fascinating.. I'm getting a real catch up on their appearances. Memory Alpha.. I will not plagiarise.. Memory Alpha..
*The official First Contact between Vulcans and Humans came on April 5, 2063, when a Vulcan survey ship, the T'Plana-Hath, detected the warp flight of Zefram Cochrane's Phoenix. The Vulcans met with Cochrane at his launch site on the day following the flight. (Star Trek: First Contact)*
(So far Vulcans seem to be curious, a little controlling but still after order..)
*By the 21st and 22nd centuries, the Vulcans had also made contact with the Cardassians, Trill, Tholians, Klingons, and scores of other races. (DS9: "Destiny"; )*
This is ALL from Memory Alpha just want to reference that:
*As of the 23rd century, Vulcan had never been conquered in its collective memory. That memory went so far back that Vulcans could not conceive of a conqueror. (TOS: "The Immunity Syndrome")
In TOS: "The Conscience of the King", Spock declines to have a drink with McCoy by saying that his people were "spared the dubious benefits of alcohol"; McCoy scorns Spock's refusal by stating that he now knows why Vulcan was conquered. This would seem to contradict the above. A possible solution could be he is referring to the Romulan infiltration in 2154, which could be considered to be a conquest.*
(Again a sense of control and order but a nice little bit of dialogue too).
*By the 24th century, Vulcan remained one of the principal Federation members, and was deeply involved at all levels of that society.
By 2369, the Vulcans had a saying known to the Federation: "We're here to serve." (DS9: "Captive Pursuit")*
I know I could go on, especially ploughing through Spock and Tuvok stuff, but I tire of this. My memories of TOS DO reflect that Spock was made to feel lesser, diluted and emotional, and he was taunted and tormented. However I also remember Spock wanting to attain what it was to be a Vulcan. I remember the dignity of other Vulcans when they were portrayed. Spock was a good.. entity. His Vulcan people may have had roots like Human ones of warring and competition, but you don't draw a line in the sand just because it makes a better argument. Define a culture at one point ignoring other references to when it was not just this one point. Their homeworld and colonies evolved. TOS and beyond colored Vulcans as having a sophisticated culture, capable of philosophy and advancement, albet with longstanding rites and rituals. Mind you in reading all the ENT entries they do paint a grubbier picture..
*The official First Contact between Vulcans and Humans came on April 5, 2063, when a Vulcan survey ship, the T'Plana-Hath, detected the warp flight of Zefram Cochrane's Phoenix. The Vulcans met with Cochrane at his launch site on the day following the flight. (Star Trek: First Contact)*
(So far Vulcans seem to be curious, a little controlling but still after order..)
*By the 21st and 22nd centuries, the Vulcans had also made contact with the Cardassians, Trill, Tholians, Klingons, and scores of other races. (DS9: "Destiny"; )*
This is ALL from Memory Alpha just want to reference that:
*As of the 23rd century, Vulcan had never been conquered in its collective memory. That memory went so far back that Vulcans could not conceive of a conqueror. (TOS: "The Immunity Syndrome")
In TOS: "The Conscience of the King", Spock declines to have a drink with McCoy by saying that his people were "spared the dubious benefits of alcohol"; McCoy scorns Spock's refusal by stating that he now knows why Vulcan was conquered. This would seem to contradict the above. A possible solution could be he is referring to the Romulan infiltration in 2154, which could be considered to be a conquest.*
(Again a sense of control and order but a nice little bit of dialogue too).
*By the 24th century, Vulcan remained one of the principal Federation members, and was deeply involved at all levels of that society.
By 2369, the Vulcans had a saying known to the Federation: "We're here to serve." (DS9: "Captive Pursuit")*
I know I could go on, especially ploughing through Spock and Tuvok stuff, but I tire of this. My memories of TOS DO reflect that Spock was made to feel lesser, diluted and emotional, and he was taunted and tormented. However I also remember Spock wanting to attain what it was to be a Vulcan. I remember the dignity of other Vulcans when they were portrayed. Spock was a good.. entity. His Vulcan people may have had roots like Human ones of warring and competition, but you don't draw a line in the sand just because it makes a better argument. Define a culture at one point ignoring other references to when it was not just this one point. Their homeworld and colonies evolved. TOS and beyond colored Vulcans as having a sophisticated culture, capable of philosophy and advancement, albet with longstanding rites and rituals. Mind you in reading all the ENT entries they do paint a grubbier picture..
