Personally, I'm trying to set a new record for not reading any Treklit.
Weed and other hobbies the "DIscovery" crew might/should have?
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Personally, I'm trying to set a new record for not reading any Treklit.
Wow. I had no idea that throwaway line had rated its own Memory Beta listing!
If there's enough interest, it will. Many main characters of books still are redlinked, so you obviously left an impression on someone.
A certain section of fandom is interested in tracking the differences between reality and the Trek timeline. You can see these sorts of threads pop up here on TBBS from time to time. Any reference to real-world pop culture is of interest.
Why? Because of one random pop cultural reference that probably took up no more than a few sentences?
It's on its fifth reboot.The same novel references YouTube and Harry Potter
I wonder if Harry Potter is still popular in the 23rd Century.
The same novel references YouTube and Harry Potter
I wonder if Harry Potter is still popular in the 23rd Century.
Wow. I don't even remember writing that.
Granted, that was about six years ago . . . .
Wow. I don't even remember writing that.
Granted, that was about six years ago . . . .
Yeah the Harry Potter books was part of a off hand reference of what was in the Time Capsule that Zoe said was no longer onboard.
Thanks for refreshing my memory!
We should probably mention, though, that a good half of that book takes place in the 21st Century, during the first manned mission to Saturn, so the contemporary references fit with that era. (Or so I like to think.)
Marijuana (a.k.a. "weed") is a harmful and dangerous substance. Check DrugAbuse.gov > DrugFacts: Marijuana for extensive details. It is banned in most of the world, and is listed as a Schedule I drug (most severe category) by the DEA. This is not an "outdated world view" but a factual and present danger.
Star Trek on drugs (controlled substances), so far:
In most of the world, weed is never okay for an intake.
As for "being gay", check with the science professionals: On the Promotion of Homosexuality in the Schools and Homosexual Parenting: Is it Time for Change?
Finally, neuroscience reveals that a person's judgement and reasoning abilities continue to develop into his or her mid-twenties.
Have a nice day.
All of the above!
^^To add to the main topic, check the article titled "Medical Marijuana is a Big Lie":
The concept of medical marijuana has allowed those who favor marijuana’s ultimate legalization to cloak the drug in a mantle of legitimacy. This is a trick that was tried by tobacco companies two generations ago. The myth of medical marijuana — that it somehow benefits people who smoke it — actually hides the truth that it is a dangerous, highly addictive drug with no known medical benefits that can seriously damage a smoker’s physical and mental health.
There are several things the pot lobby won’t tell you, but a read of the medical science is clear.
Marijuana is harmful to people in so many different ways it is truly astounding. Like cigarettes, smoked marijuana contains numerous known carcinogens. While lung cancer rates among marijuana smokers are hard to track, cancer and carcinogens go hand-in-hand.
Marijuana has been shown to increase substantially the rate of mental illness in regular users. The incidences of psychotic episodes or schizophrenia is about six times greater among regular marijuana users.
Suicide is another side effect of marijuana use. One recent study, published in the Lancet Psychiatry journal in 2014, showed a seven-fold increase in the likelihood of suicide among regular teenage marijuana users as compared to the general population. Further, it is well established in the medical literature that marijuana use is associated with higher rates of suicide in the general population.
But even setting aside these dramatic existential threats to people's physical and mental health, marijuana has been shown to make people stupider, permanently. The average drop in IQ suffered by regular marijuana users is something like eight points. This is roughly equivalent to the IQ drop caused by being exposed to lead paint chips as a child. And lead paint has been outlawed!
Beyond IQ, simple memory is damaged by regularly smoking pot. The most recent studies show permanent memory loss is the end result of regular pot use.
More generally, have you ever met anyone who is truly better off from using marijuana regularly? Pothead is a word in our modern lexicon for a reason. The lack of motivation engendered by regularly ingesting THC is also well documented and clearly apparent to any person who has seen a close friend or relative go down this path.
The advocates for medical marijuana would prefer to ignore all of these adverse health effects. They would prefer to focus our attention instead on the oil derived from cannabinoids in the pot plant that may treat certain rare forms of epilepsy or the anecdotal evidence of the calming effect of pot smoking on elderly people with cancer.
[. . .]
Then why have 23 legislatures passed some form of medical marijuana law? The short answer in many cases is because they have been duped. A more sinister and equally likely explanation is that they have been bribed. The legislators see the money pushing for the ultimate legalization of marijuana and they decide to get behind it to help their cronies rather than fight the good fight for the public health. Schizophrenic pot smokers are not very able to defend themselves and explain their story. Instead, people like former congressmen push their buddies in the state legislature to legalize medical marijuana so a company they are affiliated with can be awarded one of the few licenses to dispense pot legally.
Of course, the game is not really about medical marijuana. People following the issue have known for years that the "medical" part of the equation was always a big lie — meant to act as a stepping stone to full legalization and commercialization of pot for any use. The acceptability of marijuana, brought on first by appealing to our common compassion, is a public health disaster. And it's being pushed by a small group of people who want to get rich — very rich — off pot use by others. Meet the new big tobacco, ladies and gentlemen.
Greed is driving the new industry. Big Pot is looking to replace Big Tobacco as the new, new thing for young people. And just as Big Tobacco tried to wrap itself in the aura of the medical industry by hiring doctors to endorse its products, Big Pot is selling its bogus story of the safety and "benefits" of pot by pushing for medical marijuana. Don't be fooled again.
Jonathan Talcott is a Washington, D.C.-based attorney and the chairman of Smart Approaches to Marijuana (SAM), Inc., a nonprofit dedicated to educating people about the dangers of using marijuana.
There are several things the pot lobby won’t tell you, but a read of the medical science is clear.
Marijuana is harmful to people in so many different ways it is truly astounding. Like cigarettes, smoked marijuana contains numerous known carcinogens. While lung cancer rates among marijuana smokers are hard to track, cancer and carcinogens go hand-in-hand.
Marijuana has been shown to increase substantially the rate of mental illness in regular users. The incidences of psychotic episodes or schizophrenia is about six times greater among regular marijuana users.
Suicide is another side effect of marijuana use. One recent study, published in the Lancet Psychiatry journal in 2014, showed a seven-fold increase in the likelihood of suicide among regular teenage marijuana users as compared to the general population. Further, it is well established in the medical literature that marijuana use is associated with higher rates of suicide in the general population.
But even setting aside these dramatic existential threats to people's physical and mental health, marijuana has been shown to make people stupider, permanently. The average drop in IQ suffered by regular marijuana users is something like eight points. This is roughly equivalent to the IQ drop caused by being exposed to lead paint chips as a child. And lead paint has been outlawed!
Beyond IQ, simple memory is damaged by regularly smoking pot. The most recent studies show permanent memory loss is the end result of regular pot use.
More generally, have you ever met anyone who is truly better off from using marijuana regularly? Pothead is a word in our modern lexicon for a reason. The lack of motivation engendered by regularly ingesting THC is also well documented and clearly apparent to any person who has seen a close friend or relative go down this path.
The advocates for medical marijuana would prefer to ignore all of these adverse health effects. They would prefer to focus our attention instead on the oil derived from cannabinoids in the pot plant that may treat certain rare forms of epilepsy or the anecdotal evidence of the calming effect of pot smoking on elderly people with cancer.
[. . .]
Then why have 23 legislatures passed some form of medical marijuana law? The short answer in many cases is because they have been duped. A more sinister and equally likely explanation is that they have been bribed. The legislators see the money pushing for the ultimate legalization of marijuana and they decide to get behind it to help their cronies rather than fight the good fight for the public health. Schizophrenic pot smokers are not very able to defend themselves and explain their story. Instead, people like former congressmen push their buddies in the state legislature to legalize medical marijuana so a company they are affiliated with can be awarded one of the few licenses to dispense pot legally.
Of course, the game is not really about medical marijuana. People following the issue have known for years that the "medical" part of the equation was always a big lie — meant to act as a stepping stone to full legalization and commercialization of pot for any use. The acceptability of marijuana, brought on first by appealing to our common compassion, is a public health disaster. And it's being pushed by a small group of people who want to get rich — very rich — off pot use by others. Meet the new big tobacco, ladies and gentlemen.
Greed is driving the new industry. Big Pot is looking to replace Big Tobacco as the new, new thing for young people. And just as Big Tobacco tried to wrap itself in the aura of the medical industry by hiring doctors to endorse its products, Big Pot is selling its bogus story of the safety and "benefits" of pot by pushing for medical marijuana. Don't be fooled again.
Jonathan Talcott is a Washington, D.C.-based attorney and the chairman of Smart Approaches to Marijuana (SAM), Inc., a nonprofit dedicated to educating people about the dangers of using marijuana.
Those of you pushing the legalization of marijuana, including so-called "medical" marijuana, are mentally ill! According to statistics, even decriminalization of marijuana has shown an increase in "recreational" use.
Also, notice how the so-called "Weed Day" is on April 20th, the same date as Hitler's birthday: something to think about.
Do you still believe it is a coincidence that things like legalization of marijuana and "transgender" ideology are being so heavily pushed in the media today, including films and video games? Even Discovery's main character, Michael, is potentially a secret transgender. It reeks of deception and agenda.
Infraction for trolling to the dual. Don't comment to PM.All of the above!
To add to the main topic, check the article titled "Medical Marijuana is a Big Lie":
The concept of medical marijuana has allowed those who favor marijuana’s ultimate legalization to cloak the drug in a mantle of legitimacy. This is a trick that was tried by tobacco companies two generations ago. The myth of medical marijuana — that it somehow benefits people who smoke it — actually hides the truth that it is a dangerous, highly addictive drug with no known medical benefits that can seriously damage a smoker’s physical and mental health.
There are several things the pot lobby won’t tell you, but a read of the medical science is clear.
Marijuana is harmful to people in so many different ways it is truly astounding. Like cigarettes, smoked marijuana contains numerous known carcinogens. While lung cancer rates among marijuana smokers are hard to track, cancer and carcinogens go hand-in-hand.
Marijuana has been shown to increase substantially the rate of mental illness in regular users. The incidences of psychotic episodes or schizophrenia is about six times greater among regular marijuana users.
Suicide is another side effect of marijuana use. One recent study, published in the Lancet Psychiatry journal in 2014, showed a seven-fold increase in the likelihood of suicide among regular teenage marijuana users as compared to the general population. Further, it is well established in the medical literature that marijuana use is associated with higher rates of suicide in the general population.
But even setting aside these dramatic existential threats to people's physical and mental health, marijuana has been shown to make people stupider, permanently. The average drop in IQ suffered by regular marijuana users is something like eight points. This is roughly equivalent to the IQ drop caused by being exposed to lead paint chips as a child. And lead paint has been outlawed!
Beyond IQ, simple memory is damaged by regularly smoking pot. The most recent studies show permanent memory loss is the end result of regular pot use.
More generally, have you ever met anyone who is truly better off from using marijuana regularly? Pothead is a word in our modern lexicon for a reason. The lack of motivation engendered by regularly ingesting THC is also well documented and clearly apparent to any person who has seen a close friend or relative go down this path.
The advocates for medical marijuana would prefer to ignore all of these adverse health effects. They would prefer to focus our attention instead on the oil derived from cannabinoids in the pot plant that may treat certain rare forms of epilepsy or the anecdotal evidence of the calming effect of pot smoking on elderly people with cancer.
[. . .]
Then why have 23 legislatures passed some form of medical marijuana law? The short answer in many cases is because they have been duped. A more sinister and equally likely explanation is that they have been bribed. The legislators see the money pushing for the ultimate legalization of marijuana and they decide to get behind it to help their cronies rather than fight the good fight for the public health. Schizophrenic pot smokers are not very able to defend themselves and explain their story. Instead, people like former congressmen push their buddies in the state legislature to legalize medical marijuana so a company they are affiliated with can be awarded one of the few licenses to dispense pot legally.
Of course, the game is not really about medical marijuana. People following the issue have known for years that the "medical" part of the equation was always a big lie — meant to act as a stepping stone to full legalization and commercialization of pot for any use. The acceptability of marijuana, brought on first by appealing to our common compassion, is a public health disaster. And it's being pushed by a small group of people who want to get rich — very rich — off pot use by others. Meet the new big tobacco, ladies and gentlemen.
Greed is driving the new industry. Big Pot is looking to replace Big Tobacco as the new, new thing for young people. And just as Big Tobacco tried to wrap itself in the aura of the medical industry by hiring doctors to endorse its products, Big Pot is selling its bogus story of the safety and "benefits" of pot by pushing for medical marijuana. Don't be fooled again.
Jonathan Talcott is a Washington, D.C.-based attorney and the chairman of Smart Approaches to Marijuana (SAM), Inc., a nonprofit dedicated to educating people about the dangers of using marijuana.
Those of you pushing the legalization of marijuana, including so-called "medical" marijuana, are mentally ill! According to statistics, even decriminalization of marijuana has shown an increase in "recreational" use.
Also, notice how the so-called "Weed Day" is on April 20th, the same date as Hitler's birthday: something to think about.
Do you still believe it is a coincidence that things like legalization of marijuana and "transgender" ideology are being so heavily pushed in the media today, including films and video games? Even Discovery's main character, Michael, is potentially a secret transgender. It reeks of deception and agenda.
Oh my god, so much this. I'm looking at you, Typhon Pact.
Re: OP - I think a recurring character with a meth lab aboard Discovery would be really engaging.
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I could see a storyline therefore about a race of people who are too smart or remember too much and want to decrease their mental powers because they cause woe.
Science fiction is usually based on science, not propaganda.
This is exactly why posts that warrant banning and warnings should sometimes be edited out. So some unsuspecting person won't come along later and be misinformed by it.
Why presume Laura Cynthia Chambers was being misinformed by the post? Yes, the facts of the post they're quoting are in error, but that does not mean you couldn't drive a potential story concept from them.
Also I don't think we need to go around sheltering people from false information because we're afraid they'll be too stupid to figure out where the error lies, particularly in a discussion forum such as this where there are usually always a half dozen people more than able to respond and debunk misinformation, and so very often do just that. It invites tickling at the heels of certain forms of censorship. Dragging bigotry and misinformation into the light and saying "this is wrong" than trying to hush it up only for it to keep cropping up like a weed.
Ignorant as it is, he wasn't warned for the marijuana part of his post, and we try not to delete posts which are warned (with exceptions for porn, slurs, or personal info in some cases) so people can see what the warning was given for.
Also, there's nothing wrong with her using the content of his post to suggest a story idea. She didn't say anything about the validity of his allegations.
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It can be neither. That premise sounds a lot like the "lotophagoi" Homer wrote about in the Odyssey some 2,800 years ago. In the Odyssey (and Greek Mythology) the Lotophagoi (literally the lotus-eaters) were a race of people living on an island dominated by lotus plants. The lotus fruits and flowers were the primary food of the island and were narcotic, causing the inhabitants to live in a peaceful apathy. I don't think Homer was influenced by 20th century politics.
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