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Weed and other hobbies the "DIscovery" crew might/should have?

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Vaporizers are actually a superior way to take it.

Yes indeedy it is. And more economical considering half of your pot isn't being burned away. And they don't make near as much of a smell, I can sit on the patio of my 2nd floor apartment with my Pax and no one blinks an eye.

And I've done my own personal research on this. (which you would expect from an old retired stoner) The amount of pot that goes into the little oven on a Pax 2 is *about* less than half of what it takes to roll a *thin* joint, and probably about a quarter of what it takes to roll a nice thick one. Yet, I get more puffs (inhales) from a single oven load on a Pax than a joint. I've counted. LOL

Yes, this was difficult research, but in the name of humanity, I struggled through it.
 
Although, to your point, some would argue that action films are bad for you :D

But if STAR TREK holodeck episodes are to be believed, Starfleet officers still enjoy spy thrillers, westerns, hard-boiled detective yarns . . . and space operas.

Probably the only reason we haven't seen any wild car chases or exploding buildings in a holodeck scenario is the because the real shows' budgets wouldn't allow them. :)
 
Yes indeedy it is. And more economical considering half of your pot isn't being burned away. And they don't make near as much of a smell, I can sit on the patio of my 2nd floor apartment with my Pax and no one blinks an eye.

And I've done my own personal research on this. (which you would expect from an old retired stoner) The amount of pot that goes into the little oven on a Pax 2 is *about* less than half of what it takes to roll a *thin* joint, and probably about a quarter of what it takes to roll a nice thick one. Yet, I get more puffs (inhales) from a single oven load on a Pax than a joint. I've counted. LOL

Yes, this was difficult research, but in the name of humanity, I struggled through it.

One and one and one is three...
 
Probably the only reason we haven't seen any wild car chases or exploding buildings in a holodeck scenario is the because the real shows' budgets wouldn't allow them. :)
Plus, on the rare occasion they did have an exploding building on the holodeck (like VOY The Killing Game), the safeties were off and stuff like this inevitably happened:

 
I don't think Star Trek should come down on one side or another on the issue. And even if it is not smoked, but taken in other ways. Whilst it is becoming normalised now, does not mean in 200 years it will still be seen as normal.
 
I don't think Star Trek should come down on one side or another on the issue. And even if it is not smoked, but taken in other ways. Whilst it is becoming normalised now, does not mean in 200 years it will still be seen as normal.
Why not? Trek's no stranger to taking a stand.
 
I don't think Star Trek should come down on one side or another on the issue. And even if it is not smoked, but taken in other ways. Whilst it is becoming normalised now, does not mean in 200 years it will still be seen as normal.

Because God forbid that STAR TREK, of all things, should ever address topical issues--or try to anticipate future trends.
 
Because God forbid that STAR TREK, of all things, should ever address topical issues--or try to anticipate future trends.
Topical issues... "Should weed be treated like alcohol?" This would necessitate showing the good and bad of that - which is what I suggested they should do if they tackle it.

Future Trends... You seem to believe it will be normalised and want to see that reflected. Star Trek has suggested harmless alternatives will emerge for Alcohol etc. People take weed for both recreational/relaxing uses, medical/pain relief uses, and some a dependency on it, with mental health and paranoia side effects. Medicine in Star Trek has evolved beyond tablets and medication (for the most part) - Humans have found ways to relax with music and holonovels, but weed taken as food could still be viable. - The dependency on drugs of all kinds still happens and is frowned upon as things humanity has moved away from.

So how you take it, and what effect it has on you, that could feature I guess. Troi enjoys chocolate as a relaxant. Janeway her Coffee. So an officer could have a particular food they eat to relax, that has the same affect as Weed, which others look down on perhaps.
 
People today look down on a lot of things that aren't harmful or any of their business, that's something that should stop in the future for certain.
 
Or instead of looking down on it, they will all consider it to be a highly respectable transcendental experience that opens the mind to new ways of perception and understanding.

That is not a viewpoint I subscribe to, but I want to see humans in the future that are radically different in their thinking and behavior. Why do we keep assuming that 23rd century humans would or should think about things the same way we do?

Make Star Trek challenging.

Kor
 
Topical issues... "Should weed be treated like alcohol?" This would necessitate showing the good and bad of that - which is what I suggested they should do if they tackle it..

Not necessarily. Pretty sure TOS didn't try to show the good and bad sides of racism, or overpopulation, or whatever. And I don't recall The Voyage Home examining the downside to saving the whales. :)

It's okay to take a stand and assert that, say, Americans and Russians will get along in the future . . . or that the War Against Weed will have gone the way of the Cold War.
 
Not necessarily. Pretty sure TOS didn't try to show the good and bad sides of racism, or overpopulation, or whatever. And I don't recall The Voyage Home examining the downside to saving the whales. :)
We see what happens if they were allowed to become extinct. They did it for Earth's sake, not the sake of the Whales.

And I know you are not comparing the positive and negative use of mind/mood altering substances, and equal rights for all races, genders, and sexualities.
 
Or instead of looking down on it, they will all consider it to be a highly respectable transcendental experience that opens the mind to new ways of perception and understanding.

And this is a blind spot for a lot of speculative fiction. Broad strokes in the beliefs of groups. Klingons are warriors, Vulcans are logical, Andorians are paranoid and militaristic...etc etc...

This even cropped up on the smaller scale when Gene said for TNG that the main cast should have no interpersonal conflicts, or when in episodes like... I forget the name, but the kid lost his parents or something and Gene basically said he shouldn't be showing grief or something like that... It indicated that this was how ALL people now handled these situations... Along with being almost entirely unrelatable to a contemporary audience (Because we freakin' grieve when we lose people close to us, and not all in the same way, because we're individuals...) but it also ended up raising a lot of questions about the kind of world the 24th Century was, and not in a good way.

Why do we keep assuming that 23rd century humans would or should think about things the same way we do?

Make Star Trek challenging.

Kor


Well, this is tricky. The intention of Star Trek in this regard has always flip-flopped and gone back and forth. Depending on which creative person you listen to, and when along their involvement with Trek, you can find examples of all of them saying things like "Trek is about a better humanity" or that it's supposed to be about "us" in the future. Well, depending on which facet of Trek you look at, they are either very much like us(TOS on the whole, DS9), or they are very very different from us (TNG Season 1 and 2 i'm looking at some of your efforts in particular...)

From an audience perspective, it's important that humans still, on some important levels, resemble their contemporary selves. If they act as pompus and "evolved" as early TNG Picard and Riker did, then they are basically maligned against us.
 
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