Buffy turns 20

[Ethros]

Well in Season 7 Dawn was meant to be the same age Buffy, Xander and Willow were in Season 1. So she should have been in her second year of High School (like they were) not her first. But yeah Buffy did talk to her like she was just starting High School at the start of the season, I think it was more about though that she was starting at Sunnydale High

 

[Forbin]

There are a few Buffy episodes I would consider unwatchable. The early one with the insectoid teacher is the only one I can think of offhand.

Oh, I'll still watch that one, just for Musetta Vander!

The biggest mistake they make was to let Cordelia go, I mean she is beautiful, funny, beautiful, honest and beautiful

She's also beautiful!

Yes, I'm shallow.

 

[DigificWriter]

Now that I sit down and think a bit more, I believe Dawn's memory-created birthday is late in the year, which would make her 13-going-on-14 at the start of Season 5.

I also believe Season 6 is her Freshman Year of HS even though Sunnydale High doesn't reopen until Season 7.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

Reunion.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/eleanorbat...ying-you-are?utm_term=.jhowr3xlo6#.na7dMnNLqa

 

[DonIago]

I have to admit, given some of Nicholas Brendon's shenanigans since the show ended, I'm a little ambivalent about seeing him there. But great to see the others!

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

I loved seeing "Willow" and "Tara" reunited, and that Emma is holding a bunny!

 

[Miss Lemon]

I watched the first two episodes last night with some friends with whom I watched the original run. It was like stepping back into our own past, as we were not much older than Buffy at that time. That ancient PC, the clothes, the mobile phones...

But it was only yesterday that I realized that Giles is not really an old grandpa.

 

[Vandervecken]

I enjoyed Adam and the Initiative a lot, that would be my overall favorite. Cyberdemonoids! And "does anyone miss the mayor I-just-wanna-be-a-big-snake?"

 

[JirinPanthosa]

They do treat Giles like he's elderly when he's what, in his low 40s when the series starts?

I wonder why they never did a 'Buffy the Vampire Layer' joke in the show. Seems like a very obvious insult someone like Warren or Faith could have made.

 

[Marc]

I enjoyed Adam and the Initiative a lot, that would be my overall favorite. Cyberdemonoids! And "does anyone miss the mayor I-just-wanna-be-a-big-snake?"

Though I seem to recall at the time that the Initiative arc wasn't well received at the time amongst some fans - or maybe it was just cos they didn't like Riley,

They do treat Giles like he's elderly when he's what, in his low 40s when the series starts?

Thought that's what teenagers did.

When you're 16/17 40 is a long long way away.

 

[CorporalClegg]

I think it's because the second half was done so haphazardly. With Crouse not committed to the whole season, they had to throw out a lot of the Frankenstein's monster stuff.

I also think there's that whole thing about how poorly they represented the military. Both Joss and Noxon admitted they knew nothing about the military and they didn't put much effort into it. It really shows.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I liked Riley in season 4 but didn't like his direction in season 5, though I think he was redeemed in his single season 6 appearance.

I am not a fan of the Initiative arc. I think it was a good idea but in execution it ended up being very silly in different ways than they intended. Like they had something going with the idea of experimenting on demons instead of just slaying them, then they exploded what they built up, made the psychology professor insane instead of coldly logical and blew everything up to make it all about a Frankenstein.

If they had made it about augmenting humans with demon parts instead of building an unstoppable monster the end of the season may have come off better.

 

[Vandervecken]

Though I seem to recall at the time that the Initiative arc wasn't well received at the time amongst some fans - or maybe it was just cos they didn't like Riley,

That's true, but I always liked it. I'm pretty sure Riley was disliked because he was too alpha male or some such, but I remember a number of episodes that were all about humbling him, so that never seemed a fair complaint to me, if the Riley-hate was based on the idea that his "maleness" was being given center stage. If anything, it got torn down by the writers, not that that was required.

Anyway it was Adam that caught my interest, and I wished he had had more to do.

 

[Ethros]

From what I remember on boards at the time, "people" (ie. OTT fans who can't tell the difference between fiction and reality and take things way too seriously) didn't like Riley basically just because he wasn't Angel. In the same way certain people didn't like Darla in Angel just because she wasn't Buffy.

 

[JD]

I was never that bothered by the Initiative arc or Adam, they weren't the best part of the show, but the episodes were still watchable.

 

[CorporalClegg]

I wish they would have focused more on the whole team. Well, not the whole team. Bailey Chase can't act to save his life. But I've always thought Leonard Roberts to be fantastic. And his voice is so saucy.

 

[Forbin]

I liked Riley, 'cause if there was anything Buffy needed, it was a relatively normal, stable, human relationship.
But Adam sort of went nowhere.
And yeah, the Initiative was just plain stupid. Why a secret base beneath a public college?? Why secret agents with secret identities that are full time jobs?? Wait, he was a secret agent who was also a soldier? Which was he? Like Joss said, they had no clue how the military (whice branch was it, btw??) works. Hey, ya know, they have these things called expert consultants... Supergirl is having the same problem. The DEO is written like a clubhouse.

Speaking of Riley and poor writing how about that moment (was it in Hush?) where the shit was about to hit the fan, so he tossed Buffy his blaster (which she never used before), while he went hand-to-hand. She didn't know what to do with the gun, and he was outclassed in the fight. Stoo. Pid.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I liked Riley's alpha maleness in season 4 but I hated later when he couldn't handle that Buffy was stronger than him. Less alpha, more insecure douche.

Agree season 4 was still a good season, just one of the weaker periods of the show.

 

[Forbin]

...But one of the best season finales. Those dream sequences were amazing!

 

[Hugo Rune]

Restless is the reason TV was invented. The apex of modern scripted drama to that point.

Or utter gibberish if you've never seen the show or have any concept of TV/Cinema pop-culture

Hugo - Come on, put your back into it. A Watcher scoffs at gravity