Spoilers The Flash - Season 3
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The Runaway Dinosaur was a great episode and a pivotal point in Barry's life, and tonight's looks like it'll be big too with lots of old faces from the past.
I think that's basically what's going to happen next week, in a very musical way...
I still think it's weird to see the Speed Force depicted as the equivalent of the wormhole in Deep Space Nine, as this realm inhabited by intelligences that present themselves in the illusory form of familiar people in remembered settings. I mean, what is the nature of the sentiences within the Speed Force? Are they former speedsters who've moved on, or what?
I guess it makes sense that, after Jesse was repeatedly told "You have to stay here and protect Central City while the Flash goes to another realm," she would feel she had to take Jay's place protecting Earth-3. But it calls back the still-unanswered question, who's protecting Earth-2's Central City without her? Or was she just so good at superheroing that she ended all crime and saved it for good?
The Runaway Dinosaur was the worst Flash episode, and completely irrelevant to both Barry and the ongoing story.
Anyway, I'm just going to skim this episode. I refuse to watch one second of Barry and the irrelevant wormhole aliens. Then I'll skip next week because the musical is pointless BS and won't matter to the show anyway. So, it looks like two weeks until a real Flash episode airs.
That was the episode where he truly became the Flash. He took hold of the speed force and owned it (literally and figuratively). He was no longer just the result of an accident. It was a good episode about clearing away doubt and hesitation. That's why I was surprised that the speedforce ghosts said this time that they gave him his powers back. Unless they meant that they allowed him the opportunity to get them back.
I found it largely a unsatisfying episode. I have never been a fan of the Speed Force used in this way. Savitar is still such a vague mystery he is not interesting at all. They have dragged it out too long. Especially with him being Evil Speedester Take 3 in as many years!
In the comics they probably had long stretches with non speedester villians. Which distracted from each story basically being variations on the same theme. But on this show they rush right back to e same thing.
We know so little about Jay Garrick on the show we have no idea what his version of Hell in the Speed Force even would be.
In the comics they probably had long stretches with non speedester villians. Which distracted from each story basically being variations on the same theme. But on this show they rush right back to e same thing.
We know so little about Jay Garrick on the show we have no idea what his version of Hell in the Speed Force even would be.
Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Barry was "truly" The Flash long before then, and nothing in that episode changed him or accomplished anything, outside of being the worst hour of The Flash they've ever made. It was just a pointless, badly done rip off of the DS9 wormhole scenes, stretched to 40 or so minutes because the people writing the show either wanted to torture the fans or wanted a filler episode. That's my opinion, at least.
I'm sorry, but they thought that he was a God?
What the #### is a God?
What the #### is a God?
They would probably never do it but what if Savitar is Eobard Thawne after Barry traps him at the end of the current Legends season? It would go back full circle to him and Thawne which started the season. Mostly I would like it because Matt Letscher is so much more interesting on Legends now than Savitar so far,
Ok, screw this episode. So, Jay (who popped up out of nowhere with no warning and I thought was a Speed Force lookalike because it made no sense that he'd actually be there, but then again I skipped 99% of the speed force stuff so maybe he gave a BS explanation there) is now gone, but we get to keep Wally. Great. I don't even dislike Wally, he's fine, but Jay is a better character.
Plus, more relationship drama with Iris. I swear, being on the CW doesn't mean they have to stretch the will they/won't they bs forever. Why can't they just get together? There are a bunch of more places for relationship drama if they want it. Seriously, screw this episode, and the writers. Ugh, this crap better be resolved (in a good way, not breaking them up or stretching it out) without too much time spent on their relationship stuff.
Plus, more relationship drama with Iris. I swear, being on the CW doesn't mean they have to stretch the will they/won't they bs forever. Why can't they just get together? There are a bunch of more places for relationship drama if they want it. Seriously, screw this episode, and the writers. Ugh, this crap better be resolved (in a good way, not breaking them up or stretching it out) without too much time spent on their relationship stuff.
Jay isn't gone for good, they just have to get him out.
And I do agree that they come up with some pretty contrived excuses to keep people apart.
And I do agree that they come up with some pretty contrived excuses to keep people apart.
Yeah, I'm sure Jay will be back. its just a bit frustrating. As for Barry/Iris, at this point their relationship problems is so tiring. The show has done all they can do with it, I just wish it would move on. heck, they can still have drama while not going back and fourth on the relationship itself.
I thought of that right after I posted earlier. That cliche is so annoying, and usually ends up failing
I think that might be the best episode of Flash in 2017. Finally, we have direction leading to the end of the season and Barry has a new and much needed sense of focus to beat savitar. I'm also glad this back half isn't about changing events and we can really get some good story to the end.
Also I still think the best thing about this show are the self reflective moments. It feels like that's been missing lately and this episode brought it back to the forefront. It was also good use of bringing back dead characters with no confusion.
Looking forward to the musical episode.
Also I still think the best thing about this show are the self reflective moments. It feels like that's been missing lately and this episode brought it back to the forefront. It was also good use of bringing back dead characters with no confusion.
Looking forward to the musical episode.
Mmmkay ... It was a treat to see Eddie, Snart, and Ronnie's manifestations in the Speed Force. While I found the on-again off-again relationship dynamic between Barry and Iris frustrating, it was understandable. Certainly he wouldn't want to marry her out of a sense of obligation, so Iris was right the first time.
No chest bump as they both yelp "ESKIMO BROTHERS!"?
It wasn't obligation Gryff, Barry was trying to derail the timeline where an un-engaged Iris dies.
Engaged Iris has a chance, un-engaged Iris is a corpse.
It wasn't obligation Gryff, Barry was trying to derail the timeline where an un-engaged Iris dies.
Engaged Iris has a chance, un-engaged Iris is a corpse.
My impression was that, since neither of them wanted his proposal to be tainted by the threat to Iris's life, he's decided to focus exclusively on saving her life for now, and then to refocus on their relationship when and if the threat is finally averted. Just separate the two so he can pursue each one fully in its turn. At least, that's where I thought the conversation was going, but then it sort of lost direction at the end there.
I do think he owed Iris a bit more explanation when he said he planned to save her by embracing the future rather than trying to avoid it. Since that future includes her death, that's not a very reassuring thing to say to her.
Yeah, story-wise it would have made more sense if she'd gone back to Earth-2 and Wally had gone to Earth-3 to repay his debt to Jay. Note especially how Jesse dropped a line about (already) having a lot of experience fighting monsters on her Earth. Sounds like a place that would still need its speedster. Or is Harry just so badass that he doesn't need her?
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