Poll Personal Opinion on the Skant Uniforms?
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I really wanted to see Riker in the tiny mini-dress, sitting there on the bridge......ya know, very guy like sitting style,
Who knows maybe the under-atire was kilt like!
Who knows maybe the under-atire was kilt like!
What... like pulling the Riker Maneuver, with his foot up on the console & what not? Eeek
Mmmmm
I dunno, I think if like it okay.
I'm forced to vote "nay," but it's more complicated than that. On girls, the Skant looks kind different, in a very cute way. But more than any of that, the fact that they looked so silly on Men and that they ended up being rejected so soundly meant, ultimately, that there could be no other short sleeved uniforms on the show. No other regular shorts, in the usual sense. Basically, what I'm lamenting is the complete lack of variety, outside of collar/no collar, or dress uniforms.
It was such a mistake, not having a variety of uniforms on the show. Only Picard ever got to wear a regular uniform that was unusual, in that a red jacket was associated with it and the uniform itself was grey. But if the DS9 uniforms had been available, I'd have missed them up with the regulars and make the captain's personal uniform an option for any and all officers on the ship. And then have short sleeve variants available, also. But the Skant ruined any and all chance of that ...
It was such a mistake, not having a variety of uniforms on the show. Only Picard ever got to wear a regular uniform that was unusual, in that a red jacket was associated with it and the uniform itself was grey. But if the DS9 uniforms had been available, I'd have missed them up with the regulars and make the captain's personal uniform an option for any and all officers on the ship. And then have short sleeve variants available, also. But the Skant ruined any and all chance of that ...
I know it seems that way, but I think they did enough to throw in an odd varied cut & fit, in subtle ways, now & then. There were one piece & two piece variants of the standard uniform. Pulaski wore a tunic. Ogawa wears another tunic variant while pregnant. Ro has some form of alternate two piece with undergarment. Bev got the lab coat. Picard got not only the velour jacket & gray top, but also had an odd looking vinyl shouldered variant. Worf of course stood out with his baldrick. I'll admit that it would've been nice to see more of a random mix of these around, but still... They did toss in some change now & then, even after the skant debacle. Ironically, they only had two outfits in season 1, the skant (Which disappeared after the pilot) & the jumpsuit, & after season 1 even the jumpsuit went almost extinct except for a few of the women who wore it now & then
If you'd seen all these variations in one episode together, it wouldn't be considered dull at all
Edit: Ooooo! I forgot Geordi had overalls!
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Roman men and boys wore tunics that sort of resembled giant tee shirts coming down to the knees. A toga as a huge piece of cloth that was rapped around the body over the tunic as formal wear.
Thank you, but I was already aware of this.
Skants as a military uniform make even less sense than, for example, the final scene of Gattaca, where the crew of a spaceship is seen wearing everyday business suits...
And yes, I'm well aware that fashions change over the centuries. But if there ever comes a time where stuff like this becomes commonplace in the military, I'll be proud to be dead by then.
Then you might as well drop dead now, because the dreaded legions of ancient Rome, one of the most powerful of all armies, wore skant-like tunicas. I suppose that if you went back in time and saw Roman soldiers charging at you you'd be more embarrassed about being killed by men wearing skants than terrified.
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And, as you recall, Rome fell. Coincidence?
Perhaps that time, someone just spread the word they were wearing a rather silly outfit and they all collapse in a freak out. XD
Well, eventually someone had to figure out that they were all vulnerable to the fearsome nut shot lolAnd, as you recall, Rome fell. Coincidence?
Have you ever watched I, Claudius? Nearly all the main and secondary male characters wear tunicas at some point, and in some cases they are quite a bit shorter than knee length.And, as you recall, Rome fell. Coincidence?
In fact, that's how I managed to get a couple of people in my Star Trek club interested in Roman history (a little; they didn't keep it up): I had VHS tapes of I, Claudius at the time (late 1980s) and asked, "Would you like to see Patrick Stewart in a Roman miniskirt?" (I knew they would understand that term, rather than the real term).
Their answer was, "YEAH!
"So over a weekend we watched I, Claudius and they especially enjoyed the episodes in which Patrick Stewart appeared as the villain Lucius Aelius Sejanus.
They wore loincloths underneath.
In their defense...Mirror Universe tends to run on that logic. XD
ST TNG Skant uniform - glad they went the way of the dodo
We keep judging the skant based on our contemporary viewpoints.
But I expect that human society and culture (including clothing) will be radically different in the 24th century. The uniforms should look completely wackadoodle to our primitive contemporary sensibilities, just as the stuff we wear now would have looked bizarre to someone who lived four hundred years ago.
Sci-fi errs too much on the side of caution in trying to make something that looks good and stylish to us instead of really creating a far-future world that is alien and different and full of weird wonders.
Kor
But I expect that human society and culture (including clothing) will be radically different in the 24th century. The uniforms should look completely wackadoodle to our primitive contemporary sensibilities, just as the stuff we wear now would have looked bizarre to someone who lived four hundred years ago.
Sci-fi errs too much on the side of caution in trying to make something that looks good and stylish to us instead of really creating a far-future world that is alien and different and full of weird wonders.
Kor
Perhaps it might. But we'll all be dead by then, so who cares?
Of course we judge based on contemporary viewpoints, because those are the only ones we will ever have.And to be honest, all of this only exists for TV ratings and box office returns. Make the future society too different, and both of these will drop away to nothing. That's why Trek is as conservative as it is. Because it has to be.
Possibly they wore loin clothes underneath, but not on hot summer days, nope.Have you ever watched I, Claudius? Nearly all the main and secondary male characters wear tunicas at some point, and in some cases they are quite a bit shorter than knee length.
In fact, that's how I managed to get a couple of people in my Star Trek club interested in Roman history (a little; they didn't keep it up): I had VHS tapes of I, Claudius at the time (late 1980s) and asked, "Would you like to see Patrick Stewart in a Roman miniskirt?" (I knew they would understand that term, rather than the real term).
Their answer was, "YEAH!
So over a weekend we watched I, Claudius and they especially enjoyed the episodes in which Patrick Stewart appeared as the villain Lucius Aelius Sejanus.
They wore loincloths underneath.
