Is episode "Past Tense" an omen of a Donald Trump presidency?

[Nyotarules]

That last one happens here a lot with Chinese investors.... You'd think the housing market is being artificially propped up by lazy government here in Australia because they don't want to look into things like Negative Gearing which is a way to dodge tax

The irony is, according to my Chinese flatmate, foreigners are not allowed to own property in China (or its very difficult)... at least they protect their market while the UK whores herself to anyone who has money. The politicians know the housing bubble is going to burst one day but no one wants to deal with the inevitable, meanwhile the Russians, Chinese and anyone from the Middle East owns a lot of London. There are also media reports that London & the South East housing market is awash with laundered money.
Now the housing crisis is effecting the middle classes the state is starting to show concern (Or pretending to).

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

The irony is, according to my Chinese flatmate, foreigners are not allowed to own property in China (or its very difficult)... at least they protect their market while the UK whores herself to anyone who has money. The politicians know the housing bubble is going to burst one day but no one wants to deal with the inevitable, meanwhile the Russians, Chinese and anyone from the Middle East owns a lot of London. There are also media reports that London & the South East housing market is awash with laundered money.
Now the housing crisis is effecting the middle classes the state is starting to show concern (Or pretending to).

Funny that. Seems like over here.. If China can stop foreign ownership why is that a bad thing in the West? Why do Western nations whore themselves out like that?

 

[Nyotarules]

Funny that. Seems like over here.. If China can stop foreign ownership why is that a bad thing in the West? Why do Western nations whore themselves out like that?

Its the wonders of unchecked Capitalism, the other religion of the West

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Its the wonders of unchecked Capitalism, the other religion of the West

Profit at all cost.

The Ferengi would love it down here.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Oh, yeah:

It will be worse than the episode predicts.

 

[marsh8472]

 

[Shaka Zulu]

We also have the ridiculous situation where brand new apartments are purchased off plan by mainly foreign investors who leave them empty.

That's the same shit happening here in Toronto, with a shitload of condos being built that are only affordable by quite well-to-do people (or people that have a good high-paying 'middle-class' white collar job.) There's now a proposal in Toronto to tax foreign home buyers/owners because housing prices are so high-I hope that it will become law.

 

[Nyotarules]

Profit at all cost.

The Ferengi would love it down here.

Did you see the DS9 episode 'Little Green Men' lol

 

[Nyotarules]

That's the same shit happening here in Toronto, with a shitload of condos being built that are only affordable by quite well-to-do people (or people that have a good high-paying 'middle-class' white collar job.) There's now a proposal in Toronto to tax foreign home buyers/owners because housing prices are so high-I hope that it will become law.

Good idea!

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Did you see the DS9 episode 'Little Green Men' lol

No I haven't why?

 

[Nyotarules]

No I haven't why?

Quark, Rom and Nog end up in 1950's USA on a military base. You can read the plot on Memory Alpha or Wiki, imagine Quark arriving in the USA at the height of capitalism lol

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Quark, Rom and Nog end up in 1950's USA on a military base. You can read the plot on Memory Alpha or Wiki, imagine Quark arriving in the USA at the height of capitalism lol

Ah....... I'll go look it up

 

[MacLeod]

Quark, Rom and Nog end up in 1950's USA on a military base. You can read the plot on Memory Alpha or Wiki, imagine Quark arriving in the USA at the height of capitalism lol

Not to nitpick but it was the 1940's.

 

[suarezguy]

The episode already seems pretty wrong/likely to be wrong as it predicted that the non-poor would be, in a pretty widespread and nonpartisan manner, very uninformed and indifferent about the problems of the poor, rather than the polarization we see today (Sanders doing great in and nearly winning the Democratic presidential nomination and now seeming to have a big influence in the Democratic side of Congress).

Funny that. Seems like over here.. If China can stop foreign ownership why is that a bad thing in the West?

It's considered more of a bad thing in the West than in China because Western countries allow opposition parties and freer speech.

Its the wonders of unchecked Capitalism, the other religion of the West

Being reluctant to intervene at the level of emulating a Communist dictatorship country isn't exactly worship of unchecked Capitalism.

 

[thestrangequark]

The episode already seems pretty wrong/likely to be wrong as it predicted that the non-poor would be, in a pretty widespread and nonpartisan manner, very uninformed and indifferent about the problems of the poor, rather than the polarization we see today (Sanders doing great in and nearly winning the Democratic presidential nomination and now seeming to have a big influence in the Democratic side of Congress).

Are you sure about that? The primary depiction of the wealthy was the business-owner Dax runs into (character's name was Chris?), who, despite being the explicit embodiment of the super-wealthy corporate bougeoisie, is made out to be a totally sympathetic character. His character is the personification of Sisko's statement at the beginning of the episode about the problem not being that people didn't care, but that they didn't know what to do when faced with seemingly impossible social issues. This is even more apparent in that, when given a course of action, he sticks his neck out to do the right thing (he gets the Sanctuary residents online, risking his business, wealth, and reputation). The only other wealthy people depicted in the episode are the bougies at the party, who, despite being, well, bougie douches, are clearly not unaware of what's going on, as they discuss civil unrest in other countries. Of course, they couldn't delve into the complexities of every aspect of the universe they created, but it seems like they put effort into depicting a realistically diverse upper-class.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

It's considered more of a bad thing in the West than in China because Western countries allow opposition parties and freer speech.

Being reluctant to intervene at the level of emulating a Communist dictatorship country isn't exactly worship of unchecked Capitalism.

But if the housing bubble pops and crashes your economy you'd be wondering why you didn't do something before now wouldn't you?

Foreign ownership should be controlled in the West. If China can do it so can we.

 

[Nyotarules]

The episode already seems pretty wrong/likely to be wrong as it predicted that the non-poor would be, in a pretty widespread and nonpartisan manner, very uninformed and indifferent about the problems of the poor, rather than the polarization we see today (Sanders doing great in and nearly winning the Democratic presidential nomination and now seeming to have a big influence in the Democratic side of Congress).



It's considered more of a bad thing in the West than in China because Western countries allow opposition parties and freer speech.



Being reluctant to intervene at the level of emulating a Communist dictatorship country isn't exactly worship of unchecked Capitalism.

Being reluctant to intevene does not mean the state never intervenes, rent control exist in certain American cities and in Germany. In the UK rent controls were abolished and landlord rubbed their hands in glee once the buy to let market was allowed to expand, plus the state stopped building homes and the private sector did not fill in the gap, therefore demand for somewhere to live greatly exceeds supply. There are three basic things humans need water, food and shelter. The state would not allow the companies who provide food and water to sell at such ridiculous prices that people starve to death and yet shelter is left unchecked.

 

[Tenacity]

In America, you can take out a loan, buy land, hire a contractor, and have a house built. Not in Britain?

 

[Robert Maxwell]

In America, yoy can take out a loan, buy land, hire a contractor, and have a house built. Not in Britain?

You can, but it's harder (and more expensive) to get permission to do so, so a lot fewer people do it.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Why is it harder in Britain?