Opinions on Michael Eddington
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Essentially that seems to be what he's saying. If you make enough of a mark on history you're a great man and that's a good thing regardless of how exactly you went about it. Moreover if you deliberately do that to feel better about your own failings it's an honourable motive. Overcompensation for inadequacy made into a moral crusade.
So if I have a small penis and blow the world up in frustration that apparently would make me the greatest man ever.
I mean remind me again what the Maquis are.
The Federation went to war with the Cardassians about 5 times, they knew about each other for over a century (the Kelvin timeline putting first contact prior to 2255), and it was always brutal between them. The space between them was a warzone, with starships fighting for decades, ground deployments, melee combat and everything.
So several hundred humans thought it was the best place to settle several planets to live a primitive lifestyle, with no weapons. What...the actual...fuck.
Who saw No Mans Land during WW1, while it as happening and thought, gotta get me some of that sweet muck, and built a house there?
Then the DMZ was formed, the Cardassians were awarded space based on it's value overall, including those planets. The settlers had time to leave on Starfleet vessels for the safety of the Federation...and stayed. Somewhere they had squatted for very little time and made little of.
Then took up arms, threatened the peace process, war AGAIN with the Federation...over fucking dirt?
Good riddance to them.
The Federation went to war with the Cardassians about 5 times, they knew about each other for over a century (the Kelvin timeline putting first contact prior to 2255), and it was always brutal between them. The space between them was a warzone, with starships fighting for decades, ground deployments, melee combat and everything.
So several hundred humans thought it was the best place to settle several planets to live a primitive lifestyle, with no weapons. What...the actual...fuck.
Who saw No Mans Land during WW1, while it as happening and thought, gotta get me some of that sweet muck, and built a house there?
Then the DMZ was formed, the Cardassians were awarded space based on it's value overall, including those planets. The settlers had time to leave on Starfleet vessels for the safety of the Federation...and stayed. Somewhere they had squatted for very little time and made little of.
Then took up arms, threatened the peace process, war AGAIN with the Federation...over fucking dirt?
Good riddance to them.
The DMZ world's weren't inhabited or contested when they were settled though. Nor do I think they were in the border regions precisely.
Pretty much. In fact the "homes" we see them defending tend to be pretty much caves with central heating and lights, makeshift affairs based on standard starfleet colonising gear.
Makeshift encampments. In a war zone. Over which they are prepared to endanger millions of other people's lives on some principle that's pretty morally ambiguous in the first place. This is the "great cause" Eddington hinged his overweening ego on in order to become something more than a security officer. These are the people he led to their dooms in order to feel less inadequate.
Which is a shame, because he really did seem to be an excellent security officer.
And we know from DS9 the population of the Federation is roughly some 900 billion, potentially threatened by the deliberate actions of many several thousand at best who knew full well the history of the area they moved to, which was a warzone maybe before most of them were born.
Was the captain of the Titanic a great man? He successfully commanded his ship 2/3 of the way across the Atlantic!
Excellent security officers resign if they can't in good conscience support their employer. They don't keep working while plotting against them.
Paul went to the Gentiles to preach the gospel he did not go to steal their land, cannot say the same for the post Apostolic church once Christianity became legit.
'By this shall all men know that you are disciples when ye love one another' A command from Jesus to His followers that fell by the wayside millenia ago. Don't believe me, then explain Christian history since the Middle Ages. - War, prejudice, colonialism, imperialism, genocide, segregation, persecution etc. And all just after church on Sunday.
As for 'Love your neighbour as yourself', that became Love yourself and only folks who looks and share your beliefs.
You are right religion is more than be nice and feeling mushy and in a lot of cases has nothing to do with Christ's gospel.
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You've broadened the discussion by a factor of a thousand and I'm not going to exhaust my precious emotional energy debating you.
Ummm, you did that. Badly too considering:
a) Jesus's existence is unproven
b) All of the above is pretty much drawn from one rather dubious source
c) (Most importantly) None of the above behaviour even remotely touches "killing millions and causing the death of millions more".
"Snapping at Peter"
Calling the Pharisees "A den of vipers"
Sending Paul to "go to the Gentiles"
Hardly the kind of behaviour that we are discussing here.
You blasted the door wide open so don't complain when someone steps thru it.
The Klingons put the Cardassians into a state of chaos. The Maquis were just able to take advantage of the fact the Cardassians seemed to no longer be able to enforce the DMZ from their end. Two of their worlds get poisoned without a response. Not only that but Sisko is able to breach the treaty by freely operating the Defiant in the DMZ.
His biggest coup we see is stealing something that he was protecting.
The question is whether the success of the Maquis (if they were really close to declaring independence) was due to Eddington's self appointed "greatness" or was it just that Eddington came in on Easy mode and was coasting towards the finish.
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I don't really buy his motivation for joining the maquis or was invested in his decision. I liked how he became a foil to Sisko and Starfleet and I like the way his story ended.
So has the actor ever been to the convention circuit?
I would advise him to stay home, some fans might forget Eddington is a fictional character from a made up universe.
I'm asking if Marshall has ever been to the convention nor should he go.
Most trek alumni do at some stage, for the many it's a genuinely needed source of income when they aren't working so I'd have to guess probably yes.
Apparently Alice Krige often has fans running away screaming for their lives. You wouldn't believe some of the things they approach Armin Shimerman for. Common problem.
Conversely, fans experiment with Brent Spiner's "full functionality."
