Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2

[Guy Gardener]

Yes, but wouldn't the bullets come out and possibly hit someone on the other end? It would really suck to be that guy talking a stroll in the park and suddenly a portal opens up and bullets fly out and kill you.

It is of course well known that careless talk costs lives, but the full scale of the problem is not always appreciated.
For instance, a human (see Earth) named Arthur Dent who, because of a Vogon Constructor Fleet, was one of the last two humans in the Universe at the time, once said "I seem to be having trmendous difficulty with my lifestyle." At the very moment that Arthur said this, a freak wormhole opened up in the fabric of the space-time continuum and carried his words far far back in time across almost infinite reaches of space to a distant Galaxy where strange and warlike beings were poised on the brink of frightful interstellar battle.

The two opposing leaders were meeting for the last time.

A dreadful silence fell across the conference table as the commander of the Vl'Hurgs, resplendent in his black jewelled battle shorts, gazed levelly at the the G'Gugvuntt leader squatting opposite him in a cloud of green sweet-smelling steam, and, with a million sleek and horribly beweaponed star cruisers poised to unleash electric death at his single word of command, challenged the vile creature to take back what it had said about his mother.

The creature stirred in his sickly broiling vapour, and at that very moment the words I seem to be having tremendous difficulty with my lifestyle drifted across the conference table.

Unfortunately, in the Vl'Hurg tongue this was the most dreadful insult imaginable, and there was nothing for it but to wage terrible war for centuries.

Eventually of course, after their Galaxy had been decimated over a few thousand years, it was realized that the whole thing had been a ghastly mistake, and so the two opposing battle fleets settled their few remaining differences in order to launch a joint attack on our own Galaxy - now positively identified as the source of the offending remark.

For thousands more years the mighty ships tore across the empty wastes of space and finally dived screaming on to the first planet they came across - which happened to be the Earth - where due to a terrible miscalculation of scale the entire battle fleet was accidentally swallowed by a small dog.

Those who study the complex interplay of cause and effect in the history of the Universe say that this sort of thing is going on all the time, but that we are powerless to prevent it.

"It's just life," they say.

There is that danger, yes.

 

[Guy Gardener]

It's called an Einstein-Rosen bridge, by the way, not Rosenberg.

I always have Willow on the mind.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Supergirl: "We Can Be Heroes"--

SG/Kara: Yep...she's all about Mon-El becoming a hero, but the Guardian? Ohh no. Something "wrong" with that--and does not see the Guardian as another hero she can rely on.

After discovering he's the Guardian, instead of being supportive--or trying to understand his apparently longstanding moral charge to do more to help the common person, SG pulls the BS argument that only super-powered people can survive crime fighting? "If you don't stop, I'll stop you?" Astoundingly arrogant. Does this series EVER need a Batman moment (take your pick) to flush that crap down the toilet.

James/Guardian: James wounded. As pointed out last week, the plot seems to be moving him toward a tragedy.

"You do not get to decide--" Best line of the series. He is right. It's not SG's place to choose his destiny. Moreover, he was a central figure in building her (fleeting) sense of justice and a basic moral core, so she--more than anyone else--should understand what's driving his crusade.

At least Jonn recognizes the value of James and Winn.

Mon-El: Mon-El ignoring SG's orders and his (initial) refusal to answer Kara's "do you like me"--predictable "I thought you were changing" & will they/won't they plot bait for the forced relationship.

M'Gann: So far, her storyline is just...there. I hope whatever its building up to is worth this journey.

Livewire: "Little boys..." line. Not too subtle with that message.

NOTES:
Once again, others (James and Mon-El) have to straighten Supergirl out when her arrogance smothers reason. This should not be a problem this late into the game (in series).

The rift between the series' main trio is a good, dramatic move. Yeah, this should lead to a critical moment--possibly of the life threatening variety.

Best moment: Kara and James both saying "I gotta go"--then they're off.

GRADE: B+ thanks to the James/Kara conflict. That was the episode. Nothing else mattered.

 

[Christopher]

Hmm... A lot happened here. Hard to keep track of it all. I got the sense that Supergirl was so angry at Livewire because she was angry at herself, guilty for letting this happen to Leslie. That wasn't really brought out overtly, but I think it was a subtext when Supergirl tried to help her in the climax. I'm not sure about letting her go, though, since she still might kill people as a result.

Kara's problem with James being Guardian is harder to understand, though. Sure, he's human and unpowered, but so's Alex and the rest of the DEO team other than J'onn. So are Maggie and the NCPD. So are quite a few of the Earth-1 heroes she worked with last month. Why is it different with him? Sure, they're friends, but Alex is her sister. So her problem with this doesn't really make sense to me.

Good to see J'onn and M'Gann reconciling, but it's weird to see a story that's so much about their Martian-ness where they never drop their human guises. I can see why they let them be human for the big dramatic stuff, so the performances wouldn't be obscured by CGI, but it would've been nice to see at least some shapeshifting.

I wonder if Mon-El's eventual costume will be red with a blue cape...

 

[Commander Richard]

• Kara disaproving of James being Guardian feels contrived. I do hope that they aren't going to kill him off permanently.
  
• About that little chat between Kara and James in Cat's office... Someone's been reading @TREK_GOD_1 's posts.
• They worked in a "nasty woman" remark.
• I thought we were going to see Mon-El's costume in this episode.
• Nice bit on forgiveness from Alex.
• Nice meta moment about James not wanting to be just the guy at the office and Winn not wanting to be the computer guy.
• Also liked the line about how it's not actually fun to have a nemesis. I can totally imagine this version of Clark making it seem exciting though.

 

[tomalak301]

I liked this episode more than last week but I didn't like Kara's reaction to James, especially after she's met Oliver and all the other non-metahumas she fought alongside with. Also her sister helps people too and she didn't get a lecture.

The stuff with Jonn and M'gann was awesome though. Really excited that will be the main story next week and honestly I almost forgot about her. Glad she's finally out of the cell.

 

[Vendikarr]

It really is the worst reasoning they could come up with. She is down on James an Winn for being regular humans and being heroes. but just last week she was basically a regualr human and still tried to get the job done.

I hope they have a better underlying reason, because her reasong against Guardian as stated is just plain stupid.

 

[Christopher]

Maybe it's just that Kara's used to thinking of Alex as the big sister who cares for her. So it's easier for her to accept Alex as being able to take care of herself, but she's more afraid for James and Winn and doesn't want to see them risk death.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Underneath it all Kara cares more about the two of them and just wants to keep them out of harm's way and save.
But eventually she will see the double standard.
She is human like that.

 

[Christopher]

Underneath it all Kara cares more about the two of them snd just wants to keep them out if harm's way and save.

Cares more about James and Winn than about her own sister? I doubt that.

 

[The Old Mixer]

She is down on James an Winn for being regular humans and being heroes. but just last week she was basically a regualr human and still tried to get the job done.

I was wondering if anybody else caught that.

But eventually she will see the double standard.

Only if the writers do....

 

[Romulan_spy]

I think the real reason why Kara disapproves of James being the Guardian is because she still has feelings for him. It would explain why she is concerned about him making a mistake and dying. She is afraid of losing him.

 

[Mudd]

Kara disapproves of Guardian because the producers want a Superman/Batman throwdown at some point.

I've gotta say that the various character bits and subplots on Supergirl are a lot more engaging than on the CW-native DC shows. I still miss Cat, though.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Teri Hatcher Joins 'Supergirl' for Major Season 2 Arc

 

[dahj]

Kara disaproving of James being Guardian feels contrived.

Especially since she recently visited Earth-1 and hung out with a whole bunch of unpowered heroes.

Don't quite get why they're going with "you're just human", a much more valid reason for her to have objections to it should have been their lack of training and preparation, she trusts Alex and others at the DEO because they've had years of training while James and Winn just went out in the field right away, without even spending 5 years on a hellish island.

Also, unmasking Guardian while he's unconscious... that's gotta be against some sort of superhero honour code, right?

 

[Christopher]

Don't quite get why they're going with "you're just human", a much more valid reason for her to have objections to it should have been their lack of training and preparation, she trusts Alex and others at the DEO because they've had years of training while James and Winn just went out in the field right away, without even spending 5 years on a hellish island.

I'm hoping the idea is that she's rationalizing her negative reaction and there's really some other explanation behind it that she'll be forced to acknowledge soon enough.

Also, unmasking Guardian while he's unconscious... that's gotta be against some sort of superhero honour code, right?

But it might have been medically necessary, to ensure he could breathe freely, to check for concussion, etc.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Not in the Arrowverse where everyody knows your name, and they're always glad you came...

 

[Romulan_spy]

I'm hoping the idea is that she's rationalizing her negative reaction and there's really some other explanation behind it that she'll be forced to acknowledge soon enough.

I still say that she will admit to still having feelings for James. It's the best explanation I can come up with. It explains why she is so worried about Guardian dying and also why she is not reciprocating Mon El's feelings.

 

[JD]

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who was bothered by Kara's reaction to learn James was Guardian. I could understand her not wanting her friends to put themselves in danger, but the justification she gives just really doesn't work.
The stuff with Livewire was pretty good. Her being the victim instead of the mastermind was a nice twist, and I'm a fan of Steve Valentine, so I got a big kick out of seeing him.
Fun fact: The woman that was given Livewire powers was played by American Ninja Warrior competitor, Jessie Graff, who has also worked as a stunt double on the show in the past.
Mon-El's story was pretty good too, and seeing him, Kara, and James all working together was a pretty cool moment. I'm glad that they are finally dealing with his feeling's for her. The story with him saving Kara rather than the cops was a nice way to deal with their issues, and the differences between them.
It was nice to see J'Onn issues with M'Gann.

 

[Guy Gardener]

James is a love machine, not a fight machine.