American military academy cadets are most Americans, with a small percentage of cadets being from foreign nations.
Vulcan officers might get their training through the Vulcan science academy, or Vulcan could have it's own a dedicated fleet academy.
United Earth in the Star Trek universe
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Vulcan officers might get their training through the Vulcan science academy, or Vulcan could have it's own a dedicated fleet academy.
^ In that one TNG episode we see a Vulcan cadet attending a Starfleet Academy prep course.
Everyone in Starfleet goes to Starfleet Academy. This has been made very clear throughout Star Trek. The only exceptions were McCoy in the Prime Universe (though he did attend the Academy in the Kelvin universe) and Dr. Bashir, who graduated Starfleet Medical School. What's more, there's overwhelmingly too much evidence indicating the San Francisco campus is Starfleet Academy's only campus, at least given how many of the main characters are confirmed to have attended the Academy at San Francisco.
Where was this mentioned in the shows/films? I believe you but I don't remember hearing it.
Many times, but most notably in The Ultimate Computer when he doesn't understand what "Dunsel" means specifically because he never attended the Academy.
During TOS, the only people we're know for sure attended the Academy are Kirk, Mitchell and Chekov.
Paris attended a Academy campus in France.
Then again most of the characters we have seen are human from Earth. It is possible that there are various campus across the UFP and you simply attend the closest one. i.e Spock goes to Earth because that's the closest.
Spock was half Human. This might have helped him get into the academy on Earth.
Assuming he went to the academy.
Spock could have first gone to a science university on Earth, then gone to a Starfleet officer training program (three months?), then received a officers commission.
No he didn't, he chose France as the site of his physical training, but he still attended Academy classes at San Francisco.
What about Nog? He attended San Francisco, despite the fact that Earth is a two week journey at high warp from the Bajor system. So there were no other campuses closer than that?
Spock went to the Academy. Again, The Ultimate Computer, McCoy turns to Spock for an explanation of what a Dunsel is because Spock attended the Academy.
Could Dunsel have been a newer slang term? McCoy is a little bit older than they are. It doesn't take many year to have new slang terms in a school that the previous class will not recognize at all.
Spock never took the Kobayashi Maru Test, likely because he was not training to be in command, though if Prime Spock and Kevin Spock shared some traits, he programmed the test himself, so he'd have tested it, but not been tested with it.
Spock never took the Kobayashi Maru Test, likely because he was not training to be in command, though if Prime Spock and Kevin Spock shared some traits, he programmed the test himself, so he'd have tested it, but not been tested with it.
First McCoy didn't ask Spock, he asked the room in general.
Why would Spock (a big know it all) have to of been a midshipman to know the term dunsel?
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Because in the real world most Hollywood are of Anglo Saxon/Celtic/Germanic descent. It is easier to be creative with the Star Trek books than Star Trek TV shows. Perhaps in 40 years the reboot of Star Trek will have James T Kirk looking like a cross between Sulu and Kirk to reflect the mixed marriages between SE Asian females and European males in the USA.
If San Francisco is the only SF campus then the entire city must be made of just Starfleet Academy schools and faculty. That's a lot of students to provide officers for a fleet as large as the Federation .
I highly doubt SF is the only campus. There's got to be dozens, or even hundreds, of satellite campuses scattered all over the Federation - with a population that large, they couldn't really work it any other way.
And they probably have flawless video-conferencing (or even holographic) so it seems like they're all in the same place during class lectures and things like that.
And they probably have flawless video-conferencing (or even holographic) so it seems like they're all in the same place during class lectures and things like that.
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The novels anyway say it's been around since the Academy was founded, and was named after an actual Captain named Dunsel killed in the Romulan War. Apparently he didn't have much of a track record prior to heroically dying.
The implication the scene carries is that it is a well known term among Academy graduates and an unknown one among those who didn't attend. Occam's Razor suggests if Spock knew the term, he went to the Academy. Simple logic.
Thing is, if you look over a list of characters in all Trek who we know for a fact attended the Academy at San Francisco, an overwhelming majority have. No mention of other campuses has ever been mentioned, not even in novels. Well, there was a reference to a campus on Earth's Moon in a novel, but as that's where Sloan claims to have graduated, I'm of the opinion that is in fact a Section 31 training compound.
^ Which confirms my head canon that the whole of San Francisco city was turned into an educational centre for Starfleet - its the only employer in town lol
Ok more ideas for life on United Earth/The Sol system
1. Open immigration policy under certain conditions
(Would an open immigration policy work on United Earth - Considers the unpopularity of the present real life EU open door policy)
2. Parts of the moon is turned into a penal colony
3. Interspecies marriages/relationships
a. ST ENT era - frowned one, couples stay in closets
b. ST TOS era just about tolerated, legislation makes it legal
c. ST TNG/DS9/VOY era - no one blinks an eye
1. Open immigration policy under certain conditions
(Would an open immigration policy work on United Earth - Considers the unpopularity of the present real life EU open door policy)
2. Parts of the moon is turned into a penal colony
3. Interspecies marriages/relationships
a. ST ENT era - frowned one, couples stay in closets
b. ST TOS era just about tolerated, legislation makes it legal
c. ST TNG/DS9/VOY era - no one blinks an eye
My take is the term is well known among most Starfleet officers, McCoy not being a typical Starfleet officer didn't know. The enlist personnel like knew it to.
Spock had been in Starfleet for decades by that point, plenty of time to pick up the expression.
Data was said to be a academy graduate, with no meantion of San Fransisco.
Given his stated graduation class year, it's doubtful he went to a academy on Earth.
If there are conditions then it's not open immigration, open immigration is a unconditional open flood gate cluster fuck.
I would imagine there is some immigration, taking into consideration what the people on Earth want their planetary population to be, and vetting the applicants for the best of the best in terms of graduate degrees and skills.
According to Robert Heinlein, that's how the moon obtained it's political independance from Earth.
Hopefully Earth has a better policy on that than the Federation's policy on "no gays allowed."
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