Spoilers DC's Legends of Tomorrow - Season 2
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I'm not saying they were literally military. I'm just saying they were presented as formal, disciplined, professional, respectable types -- the sort of quality that would be defined as "clean-cut." The JSA were supposed to be the respected, well-honed professionals looking down on the amateurish Legends. I'm just saying that it would've been a better fit to that if Rex Tyler had been clean-shaven.
Exactly. Indy got all stubbly and hardscrabble when he was in the field, but when he needed to be presentable at the university or a formal event, he got a shave.
Exactly. Indy got all stubbly and hardscrabble when he was in the field, but when he needed to be presentable at the university or a formal event, he got a shave.
I think they can be disciplined, professional, respectable types and miss a shave or two. I'm sure our WWII military was all of those, even with stubble.
When we see the JSA on the grandstand, in a parade or meeting the President then they can look presentable.
I watched the second episode. The "JSA" were pretty lame, and huge jerks. Its funny how Vixen said Ray wasn't a hero because he used tech instead of powers, since Stargirl has no powers either, its all from her Star Rod (and cosmic converter belt, but that wasn't part of this version). You could argue we don't have her powers explained in the show so the TV version might have natural powers, but all of the abilities she showed came noticeably from the Rod, so I think its safe to assume her powers are the same or mostly the same as the comics, unless the show later contradicts that.
Dr. Mid-Nite had a weird Daredevil sequence that irritated me. His power is he can see in the dark, and only in the dark. Now, I think Dr. Mid-Nite III also has an infared/x-ray vision thing, which would also make sense as a vision power. But, it looked like LoT Mid-Nite could see all around him in that weird echolocation/radar vision Daredevil style of "blind super powers". Hourman only got to fight as a blurry background character, which seemed like a cheap way to avoid his powers when his super strength would be that hard to show, even if its just one scene. Vixen was...Vixen. The powers were pretty faithful to the comics, and it was cool to see them in live action (I'm glad they showed the ghostly animal shape when she activated her powers). I don't think Steel even had powers, which was weird.
As characters the "JSA" were bizarrely military in style (which is very much not a JSA thing), and they were also all asses (at least the ones that talked, I don't remember Obsidian even having a line). Still, the overall story was ok, and the Legends team made it a good episode. I'd call it a good episode overall, with the JSA a disappointment instead of an anger inducing element for me. I wasn't too sad to see Hourman go, which sucks because I like the various versions of him in the comics. but, he was too stuck up and too much of a jerk for me to care too much. I'm interested to see where the show goes from here.
Dr. Mid-Nite had a weird Daredevil sequence that irritated me. His power is he can see in the dark, and only in the dark. Now, I think Dr. Mid-Nite III also has an infared/x-ray vision thing, which would also make sense as a vision power. But, it looked like LoT Mid-Nite could see all around him in that weird echolocation/radar vision Daredevil style of "blind super powers". Hourman only got to fight as a blurry background character, which seemed like a cheap way to avoid his powers when his super strength would be that hard to show, even if its just one scene. Vixen was...Vixen. The powers were pretty faithful to the comics, and it was cool to see them in live action (I'm glad they showed the ghostly animal shape when she activated her powers). I don't think Steel even had powers, which was weird.
As characters the "JSA" were bizarrely military in style (which is very much not a JSA thing), and they were also all asses (at least the ones that talked, I don't remember Obsidian even having a line). Still, the overall story was ok, and the Legends team made it a good episode. I'd call it a good episode overall, with the JSA a disappointment instead of an anger inducing element for me. I wasn't too sad to see Hourman go, which sucks because I like the various versions of him in the comics. but, he was too stuck up and too much of a jerk for me to care too much. I'm interested to see where the show goes from here.
He can see in daylight because of his goggles. Without them he's blind.
Yes, I also think Ray should have mentioned his suits ability to miniaturize. That's kinda of a big deal. He made it sound like it was a just robot suit when it is anything but that. And, I would think that the JSA would be able to recognize how miniaturization would be a really powerful ability.
Yeah, I know. I was mostly talking about how, when they showed what he "saw", it looked like he could see all around him, in the same style as Daredevil. I probably should have made it clear I wasn't talking about him "seeing" in daylight.
Honestly, her problem seemed to be that it was science instead of a natural power, not just that it was a flying mechanical suit. That's what made it weird for me, since she's on a team with Stargirl. I don't think shrinking would have impressed her that much, at least at the time she said Ray wasn't a hero.
Again, he had the same stubble in every scene, including the one from last season's finale. It was clearly not a "missed shave," but an anachronistic modern grooming choice.
You should watch the episode a second time, like I did yesterday. She never said a word about "attitude" -- she's with the JSA, not the Power Rangers. When Ray said "So without the Totem, you're just--", she replied, "A 5th-degree black belt with advanced weapons training."
It's not like he was in 20 episodes. Outside of the warning at the end of last season all his scenes happen in a very short time.
Rationing?
I remember a big deal being made about razors and nylons.
I remember a big deal being made about razors and nylons.
Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, but I interpreted the 'You're not a hero' line as a judgement of Ray's character, not his abilities.
I mean, sure, she still thinks he isn't a 'superhero' at the end of the episode, which is weird, but people often are self-contradictory.
I mean, sure, she still thinks he isn't a 'superhero' at the end of the episode, which is weird, but people often are self-contradictory.
Superheroes are a creation of the comics books.
Do comic books exist in this version the DC Universe?
Ray's suit makes him a super soldier?
His courage makes him a super hero.
How does she even know that word, if comic books don't exist?
Star Girl's costume is what I found to be the most un-1940s era.
By modern standards she is naked with several tattoo arrows singling out her hoohoo.
Do comic books exist in this version the DC Universe?
Ray's suit makes him a super soldier?
His courage makes him a super hero.
How does she even know that word, if comic books don't exist?
Star Girl's costume is what I found to be the most un-1940s era.
By modern standards she is naked with several tattoo arrows singling out her hoohoo.
Have you seen Wonder Woman? She's got stars all over her hoohoo and shows more skin than a Betty Grable poster. How about the Phantom Lady? One of the covers was used as evidence in Wertham's Seduction of the Innocent. 40's heroines didn't dress like nuns.
Star Girl's costume is probably closer to 40's fashion than any of others.
Bathing costumes.
40 feet away from a source of water, you're suddenly obscene to be wearing trunks, even today.
Comics, even the actual comics from the 40s, and not comics set in the 40s, are not the same as a live action movie from the 1940s.
She's wearing bike shorts for ####s sake.
40 feet away from a source of water, you're suddenly obscene to be wearing trunks, even today.
Comics, even the actual comics from the 40s, and not comics set in the 40s, are not the same as a live action movie from the 1940s.
She's wearing bike shorts for ####s sake.
He's too clean shaven to be a real superhero.
You've never seen Maureen O'Sullivan in her original Jane costume from Tarzan the Ape Man, I take it.
Women have been wearing shorts as athletic wear for decades. Wonder Woman's 40's costume could also be mistaken for biking shorts. They come down to the mid thigh and are form fitting,
Yup, I've seen the early Wonder Woman costumes.
Google images is suggesting that Jane Porter was shipwrecked or living in the jungle full time, which means that the character has clearly given the finger to the civilized world.
Looked up "women in shorts" on google.
Thank you.
God bless you.
Objection withdrawn.
Google images is suggesting that Jane Porter was shipwrecked or living in the jungle full time, which means that the character has clearly given the finger to the civilized world.
Looked up "women in shorts" on google.
Thank you.
God bless you.
Objection withdrawn.
Vixen acted like a corporal needing orders from her Lieutenant (Hourman) which was kinda cool, it showed that the JSA was maybe Military Intelligence, more so than hobbyists... Is there a reason FDR wasn't massproducing Courtney's cosmic lance and if I was going to see anything name dropped it should have been Mirakuru/Miraculo, after-which Sara was going to start treating Rex like the untrustworthy Junkie that he is.
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